Texas Abortion Ban Goes Into Effect With Help From SCOTUS

hatty

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Edit: Now maybe some Pedantic Pro-Death Leftists might be able to sleep better at night while still IGNORING THE FACT that Abortion will ALWAYS BE MURDER.......

It looks like the 'Texas Abortion Law' is working day by day, continually affecting the number of 'Legal' abortions being performed in Texas......The Pro-Death people will smugly say that they are being performed out-of-state, but they have absolutely no way of proving that, only wishful thinking on their part.




⮞⮞⮞ Each unperformed 'Legal' abortion due to the new 'Texas Abortion Law' has potentially saved another precious LIFE.....one murder not performed is one murder not committed.



❤ 'Legal' Abortions Fell by Half in Month After New Texas Law ❤



Link: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/10/29/upshot/texas-abortion-data.html

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So should firearms falling into the hands of fuckwits....... you obviously have no problem with that!...... blah blah blah..... freedom 111........ "Yeah nah if you are a woman"

what's worse...... a shooting? or a woman wanting control over her own body?

you cant have it both ways and take the moral high ground!

go back to church and pray dickhead
 
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HBS Guy

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In Texas some abortions will kill mother as well as a fetus.

You can only ban safe, medically supervised abortions. Backyard abortionists will be setting up business in Texas for sure.

Banning (safe) abortion is about control, not concern for the life of a fetus.
 

Biggles53

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They are helpless, living HUMAN BEINGS, & no they don't belong to a woman, to do with as she damn well pleases, just because these helpless unborn so happen to be temporarily residing within her body.
Bullshit. If you tell me that, in order to survive, you “temporarily “ need to connect yourself to my body, I can tell you to fuck off…show me the court, church, political group that would deny me…
 

Shellandshilo1956

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Edit: Now maybe some Pedantic Pro-Death Leftists might be able to sleep better at night while still IGNORING THE FACT that Abortion will ALWAYS BE MURDER.......

It looks like the 'Texas Abortion Law' is working day by day, continually affecting the number of 'Legal' abortions being performed in Texas......The Pro-Death people will smugly say that they are being performed out-of-state, but they have absolutely no way of proving that, only wishful thinking on their part.




⮞⮞⮞ Each unperformed 'Legal' abortion due to the new 'Texas Abortion Law' has potentially saved another precious LIFE.....one murder not performed is one murder not committed.



❤ 'Legal' Abortions Fell by Half in Month After New Texas Law ❤



Link: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/10/29/upshot/texas-abortion-data.html

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With all due respect, I sincerely hope that you don't represent the collective intelligence of all pro-life activists.

I mentioned that women carrying an unwanted child, can easily purchase abortion pills on line, through the mail, or over the counter. Is this fact at all relevant to you?

I mentioned that a woman carrying an unwanted child, will always find a way to end her pregnancy. Safe or unsafe. Is this fact at all relevant to you?

Maybe the LEGAL number of abortions may have dropped by half, but the total number of abortions may have tripled because of this law. How many abortions(total number) were "self-managed" in Texas? Both legal and illegal? You can't say that this law is working, or that less abortions are happening, unless you have all the facts, right?

No, this is just a law, passed by a religious fanatic, sucking up to other religious fanatics, who all believe that all women should be barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen. This nutcase has even passed a law to stop women from getting mail-order pills through the posts. Luckily, this law has no effect outside of Texas, and can't violate federal postal laws. Women can still order outside of the state, or from anywhere else in the world.


This law makes no exception for rape, incest, or deformities. If a woman's pregnancy was due to rape, she must suffer the trauma of the rape, the pregnancy, the childbirth, and the rearing of an unwanted child.
 

DreamRyderX

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❤ 'Legal' Abortions Fell by Half in Month After New Texas Law ❤

And if a woman doesn't want to bring up her child, for whatever reason, adoption is an alternative everyone can live with.


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johnsmith

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And if a woman doesn't want to bring up her child, for whatever reason, adoption is an alternative everyone can live with.

how many will you adopt? The USA has over 400 000 children already in Foster care. Whilst adding another 800 000 might sound like a great idea (the number of abortions in the USA in 2017) to you, how many of those are you willing to take responsibility for on a permanent basis?
 

Shellandshilo1956

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❤ 'Legal' Abortions Fell by Half in Month After New Texas Law ❤

And if a woman doesn't want to bring up her child, for whatever reason, adoption is an alternative everyone can live with.


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In other words, you don't give a shit about what happens to the child after he/she is born!! You don't care if the child is abandoned, left on a doorstep, or thrown in a garbage dumpster. Do you even know what this SB 8 law is? Other than stopping "baby humans" from being murdered? Here is an example of what this insane law allows for.

It allows for any Texas citizen to sue anyone that they believe has assisted, in anyway, in providing an abortion for anyone. In fact these newly created "bounty hunters" will collect $10,000 just for their trouble. The state will also pay for their legal expenses, in case the case is thrown out, or wrong. Unfortunately, this could financially ruin providers and individuals, who still must pay for the attorneys to defend themselves.


The good news is, that the Supreme Court has already started hearing the 2 cases trying to stop this madness. One suit is by the Federal justice Department, and the other is a collective case by abortion providers and women's rights advocates.


It is because of people like you, that our forefathers had intended, and our Supreme Court has upheld, that there must always exist a separation between church and state.

Now the Courts have to waste their time repealing this frivolous and unconstitutional law. A law that is clearly designed to prevent women from exercising their Constitutional right to an abortion. And, you know it!
 

HBS Guy

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Listen to this fuckhead:
Previously, the FDA required abortion medication to be dispensed in person. The FDA decided in April it would exercise discretion if abortion medication was sent through the mail or through a mail-order pharmacy during the pandemic if it was done under the supervision of a certified prescriber.

Texas lawmakers feared the change opened the door for abortion medication to be given out without patients first seeing a doctor. Sen. Eddie Lucio, a pro-life Democrat, said on the Senate floor he introduced SB 4 to protect women from potentially deadly adverse reactions to abortion medication that could come as a result of not having a doctor in the process.

“This regimen is potentially dangerous, and it was approved with specific precautions that are now in jeopardy. These serious risks can only be adequately assessed and treated by a licensed healthcare worker in an in-person visit,” Dr. Jeffrey Erwin said during a Senate Health and Human Services committee meeting.
https://www.kxan.com/investigations...tion-pill-sales-providers-say-they-wont-stop/

If this deranged cockhead did not want to endanger mothers faced with an unwanted pregnancy he should not have voted for this idiotic legislation! Must be a religious cocksucker!

All this just so pathetic little shits wearing trousers could exercise control over uppity women. The Ayatollahs must be high-fiving each other!
 

johnsmith

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morons like dreamrider are responsible for these sorts of incidents

Death of pregnant woman Izabela in Poland ignites debate about abortion ban, sparks massive protests across the country
baby could not survive, had multiple defects and still they're not allowed to abort until the fetus is dead ... just so some bible basher can enforce his will on women
 

Shellandshilo1956

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Unfortunately, these pathetic delusional cockheads, can't see any difference between an undifferentiated embryo, and the mailman. They believe that planning and shooting the mayor and supervisor of San Francisco, is no different than terminating an early pregnancy. They can't see the glaring contradiction, in claiming that all women have the right to control their own bodies, but must take their pregnancy to term.

These people know that they are wrong, but believe that their cause is right. And like most beliefs, they're riddled in contradictions and bias.

Hopefully the Supreme Court will put an end to this new attempt by the Texas government to subjugate women. Especially, by these same old religious nut-farts, who are extremely in dire need of a b-job! What a coward this government is. Pandering this false narrative to the ignorant, and getting them to enforce their law for them!
 

mothra

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morons like dreamrider are responsible for these sorts of incidents



baby could not survive, had multiple defects and still they're not allowed to abort until the fetus is dead ... just so some bible basher can enforce his will on women
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I read about that and it just tore my heart out. How positively inhumane.

They're out protesting. Hopefully this never happens again.
 

DreamRyderX

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Mississippi is on the PRO-LIFE move.........




It's now in the hands of the US SUPREME COURT
How many PRO-LIFE votes do you see?
I see SIX
(6)​

➤ ➤ I predict that Roe v.Wade will survive with limitations, but the Right to Choose will rightfully revert back to being a States Issue, as it was prior to Roe v. Wade.

Amendment X (1791)

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
States Rights, & the Rights of the People --
A Limited Federal Government


https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-CONAN-1992/pdf/GPO-CONAN-1992-10-11.pdf


 
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Shellandshilo1956

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Mississippi is on the PRO-LIFE move.........




It's now in the hands of the US SUPREME COURT
How many PRO-LIFE votes do you see?
I see SIX
(6)


➤ ➤ I predict that Roe v.Wade will survive with limitations, but the Right to Choose will rightfully revert back to being a States Issue, as it was prior to Roe v. Wade.



States Rights, & the Rights of the People --
A Limited Federal Government


https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-CONAN-1992/pdf/GPO-CONAN-1992-10-11.pdf




You really need to look at the Bill of Rights again, and especially the 9th and 10th Amendments. Because, none of the freedoms and rights in the Bill of Rights are absolute. Or, without restrictions.

The Ninth Amendment states:

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.”

These rights, that are “retained by the people” include common-law, and the natural rights inherited from laws, traditions, and past court decisions. I mean, there are no written constitutional laws for the right to marry, to have employment, to have a free education, and to have children and raise a family. Right??

It is the Supreme Court that have interpreted and extended the Ninth Amendment to include these natural and common-law rights. But this does not prohibit states from changing their own constitutions and laws to modify or limit these rights.

The Tenth Amendment states:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

Unlike other Bill of Rights provisions, this right focuses only on "power" rather than "rights". The courts have generally read the Tenth Amendment to mean, all powers that are retained by the Federal Government, that have not been surrendered by the Federal Government.”.

In other words, rather than limiting the power of the federal government in any meaningful way, the federal government has both enumerated and implied powers. But where it doesn't(or chooses not to) exercise its power, the states may do so. We are now seeing the Federal Government exercise its implicit and implied powers on this issue.

Therefore, if the Federal and Constitutional laws, is to protect the fundamental rights/freedoms of all women to have an abortion(under the privacy rights), then these laws would also prohibit states from preventing, interfering, or stopping any woman from having an abortion. Indirectly or directly.

The courts will clearly see through the Texas(no exceptions over 6wks) and the Mississippi(no exceptions unless mother's life is in danger) abortion laws, for what they actually are. Just another end-run attempt around a woman's protected rights. Just like the attempts to force religious beliefs into the science classrooms. Florida is also jumping on the hypocritical bandwagon. Does any rational person think, that by punishing anyone who aids an abets in an abortion, would not be construed as denying a woman her right to have an abortion??

The governments in the "Bible Belt" are now criminalizing the actions of others, trying to help others, who are committing a NON-criminal act. I always thought accomplices and accessories, were terms, that referred only to criminal acts! So, it is legal for any woman to have an abortion, but the abortion practice itself is now illegal? Wow!

 

DreamRyderX

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They support capital punishment.

How is that pro-life?
I am proudly Pro-Life......I will always defend the lives of the unborn, those who are unable to defend themselves, so they can hopefully live & have the opportunity to enjoy all the goodness of life & God's creations. I also support capital punishment for the most heinous of crimes. I'm also an avid supporter of the Second Amendment to my United States Constitution....the Right of every Law-Abiding American Citizen to Keep & Bear Arms, to be used specifically for self-defense, as well as to be used for all other lawful purposes.......I fully support the use of firearms to defend & protect one's own life, the lives of one's loved ones, the lives of one's friends, neighbors, & fellow citizens, from all that wish them harm, even a tyrannical government that ignores their Rights.

 
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greggerypeccary

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I am proudly Pro-Life......I defend the lives of the unborn, who are unable to defend themselves, so they can live & hopefully have the opportunity to enjoy all the goodness of life & God's creations. I also support capital punishment for the most heinous of crimes. I'm also an avid supporter of the Second Amendment to my United States Constitution....the Right of every Law-Abiding American Citizen to Keep & Bear Arms, to be used specifically for self-defense, as well as to be used for all other lawful purposes.......I fully support the use of firearms to defend & protect one's own life, the lives of one's loved ones, the lives of one's friends, neighbors, & fellow citizens, from all that wish them harm, even a tyrannical government that ignores their Rights.

You're not pro-life.

You support the premeditated, state-sanctioned killing of restrained prisoners.

That's the exact opposite of pro-life.

It's also inhumane, barbaric, and completely immoral.
 

DreamRyderX

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You're not pro-life.........FALSE!

You support the premeditated, state-sanctioned killing of restrained prisoners.......100% TRUE!



That's the exact opposite of pro-life.

It's also inhumane, barbaric, and completely immoral.
Your insecure personal judgment of me means less than nothing to me, & how I will define myself. So say what you wish......it changes nothing in my life.....means nothing to my life.


But remember always..........



God Bless TEXAS!............God Bless The United States Constitution!
 
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Shellandshilo1956

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I am proudly Pro-Life......I will always defend the lives of the unborn, those who are unable to defend themselves, so they can hopefully live & have the opportunity to enjoy all the goodness of life & God's creations. I also support capital punishment for the most heinous of crimes. I'm also an avid supporter of the Second Amendment to my United States Constitution....the Right of every Law-Abiding American Citizen to Keep & Bear Arms, to be used specifically for self-defense, as well as to be used for all other lawful purposes.......I fully support the use of firearms to defend & protect one's own life, the lives of one's loved ones, the lives of one's friends, neighbors, & fellow citizens, from all that wish them harm, even a tyrannical government that ignores their Rights.


Firstly, using guns only for self-defense is a very rare event. Estimates of this usage of firearms range from between 200K to 3M claims per year. The problem is, that there are more claims than there are actual people being treated for being shot. In fact, there are more people claiming to have been abducted by aliens, or have seen UFO's, than there verifiable shooting claims of self-defense.

The actual figure is around 100K claims. But, even if all the claims were true, they would only amount to less than 1% of all firearm usages. In reality, you are over 60 times more likely to kill yourself, a member of your family, or will accidently kill an innocent person, rather than ever fire a gun in self-defense. You are also 70 times more likely to just let your firearm collect dust.

A strong and confident man will never need a gun. A weak and insecure man needs all the help he can get. DOES GOD NEED A GUN?? He just gets others to do all the killing for Him.


I have no idea why you are talking about the the right to bear arms on this thread!

You preach about all of God's creatures having the right to enjoy all the goodness of life and God's creations. Yet, you support capital punishment, even though a percentage of those executed have been later proven innocent. You support the killing of all of God's other creatures for sport and supper. Don't they have the right to live without being murdered? You support women having the right to control their own bodies, but not their right to terminate their own pregnancy. You are against mandatory contraceptives for men, which would prevent 99% of all unwanted pregnancies. You then place the onus of pregnancy entirely on women, and make men blameless.

This is why your reasoning is hypocritical and misogynistic. Embryo's and fetuses are NOT mini-humans, viable humans, or even look like humans. They are just a fertilize human egg developing in a female human. This growth has no rights, no consciousness, no sentience, and is of no business of yours. UNTIL IT BECOMES A VIABLE HUMAN!!
 

greggerypeccary

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Your insecure personal judgment of me means less than nothing to me, & how I will define myself. So say what you wish......it changes nothing in my life.....means nothing to my life.


But remember always..........



God Bless TEXAS!............God Bless The United States Constitution!
You're not pro-life.

You're a sociopathic, lying hypocrite.

Just own it and move on.
 
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