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johnsmith

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No, it is the point of view of an independent-minded American who refuses to be pigeonholed and dictated to by the "woke" political liberals. He should be admired for his courage and independence, not made the subject of racist insults by the racist, paternalistic, manipulative liberals.
I don't agree... he's pigeon holing anyone who HE DEEMS to be far left as being 'woke'. In doing so he himself is 'virtue signalling' (the right clearly have different virtues) and manipulating those from the right
 

Shellandshilo1956

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Not so much in the 21st Century. I just finished reading a book co-written by Dana Pittard, U.S. Army Major General (Ret.) He is black. The book was not about race or politics, but about the U.S. air war against ISIS. I don't even know his personal politics after reading the book. He is now a vice president of a manufacturing company in Indiana.
It doesn't matter. Why would you pick him as an example? He was a crook, investigated twice, and retired from the army to avoid being demoted. He was the general who said, that he was "..fed up with soldiers who are choosing to take their own lives.". And, "..I have now come to the conclusion that suicide is an absolutely selfish act,". Hardly an example of the success you want to achieve by working hard, right? Maybe Colin Powell would have been a better example. Or, was he ignored because he supported Barrack?

The Director of the Oregon Police Academy is a black man named Jerry Granderson. He took the position after a successful 23 year career in the FBI.
After 23 years in the FBI, to become head of a police training academy in Oregon? Really? This is exactly where I would expect to see a "token" successful Black working. Out of sight, out of mind, and buried in paperwork!!

Don't get me wrong. There are many success stories of people who work hard, or just got lucky. It is just that for every success story involving minorities, there are thousands of more stories of their failures, through no fault of their own. My point was, that for minorities, chances for success should NOT be defined as simply working hard for success. This also implies, that all failures by minorities to succeed, are caused only by their failure to work hard. This of course is just NOT true.

Racism will probably always exist among the ignorant, and it is not confined to just white people. But government mandated segregation is long gone, and discrimination in hiring, housing, and banking are all illegal.
This is true. But it is Whites who have the power and control the money. It is Whites that make the rules. It is Whites that can influence or end your road to success. Racism transcend the intellectual spectrum. It is just expressed more openly among the ignorant, and less openly among the intellectuals. Did you know that many Blacks and Chinese must "Whiten" their resumés in order to even get a call back for job interviews? People lie, but the facts don't. Racism is alive and well, and still living in the US.

Exactly HOW is discrimination/segregation in hiring, housing, and banking being enforced? Or, are these laws just being ignored or circumvented? Due to "White Privilege"?

Listen to them.
I have, and you are not answering my question.

Reread the letter I quoted by Sen. Scott. He never said racism and discrimination "do not exist".
But he does make a remark that represents the overwhelming majority of Americans today ... "You are, in fact, morally inferior to the working men and women of this great country, who are not racist people, and who, unlike you, care about truth."
I actually did read the letter. It was the most passive-aggressive, condescending and sarcastic letter I have ever read. But since it echos your own beliefs, it must be a work of art to you. Firstly, it categorizes anyone against all forms of racism and discrimination, as being delusional, liberals, and morally superior. Secondly, he says that these supposed social heros, only want to be praised by their elitist friends. And, that they are liars, and are lying about racism in America. Thirdly, that these "Woke" heroes "..set fire to government buildings, and take the lives of innocent people.". Fourthly, he claims that the "Woke" media outlets are also dishonest, and supports their lies. And finally, he not only calls them all a lying mob, but threatens them with a conservative backlash.

All this without one ounce of evidence to support his claims. Just empty assertions and threats, meaningless platitudes, and more parroted out-of-context conservative soundbites. He is definitely feathering his nest in his party, and being the good "uncle tom"(oreo). IMHO. Where was his voice at the KKK, and White Supremacist rallies in Seattle? Good boy!! There is a reason why he is called, the "Black Whisperer for White Supremacy". His ancestors would be turning over in their graves. So yes, he is an "oreo".

She is not a conservative. She is a "woke" progressive liberal. And if "woke" progressive liberals don't want to be stereotyped, then they shouldn't act and sound stereotypical.
You really need to take off those liberal/conservative filters. People are Not an either or, unless you are a political racist. In reality, this person's position may be a liberal position on this issue, but she might be conservative on other issues. I focus only on the merits of her position, not on her political ideology. By simply labeling her, I am just being intellectually dishonest and insecure. No human is an ideology!! People's opinions are NOT limited to any single ideology. Those who only define people by their political/religious ideologies, are called ideological fanatics. Are you a political fanatic Seth?

As for stereotyping an entire race(or gender), are all blondes dumb? Do all Blacks play basketball and rap? Are all Blacks outside the US poor? Are men smarter than women? Do the elderly have health issues and act like children? So, if they act like the stereotype, then is the stereotype justified? By your standards, any person who stands up to cops, voice their collective concerns at rallies, are just pigeon-holed as liberals above all else. And, their cause dismissed or ignored. This is just wrong on so many levels.

And they feel perfectly free to insult and denigrate any well-educated, successful black person who chooses to think independently of the liberal narratives, as you did for example. Political liberals believe black people must stay on the plantation which, come to think of it, is the same thing they thought in 1860. Only now, it's just a different kind of plantation. But it's the same old racism, and it belongs almost exclusively to them. Conservatives don't think that way.
I would certainly denigrate or insult Blacks(or anyone), who chooses to think independently of the liberal narrative, IF THEY ARE COMPLETELY WRONG, OR JUST SUCKING UP TO THEIR MASTERS!! You have no idea how all conservatives think. Where were these conservatives during the "reconstruction era", or the Civil Rights era? Do you think inaction can absolve them of blame? Both parties played their own role in the advancement of systemic, and entrenched racism. Would you like me to list all the racist policies of just the Republican Party?

Times have changed, Shell. The liberals you once thought you knew in the 60s and 70s hardly exist anymore.
Times have certainly changed. But from what I have seen and heard, people haven't. And, for all those trying to change with the time, there will always be the dinosaurs trying to stop them. I remember reading a comment by another academic. He said, that the only way to end racism in America, is for everyone to become an anti-racist. Clearly, that ain't gonna happen!!
 
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Squire

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Uncle Tim Scott is evidently a grifter who as learned how to profit from his audience.

Uncle Tim Scott has evidently been schooled by the King of all grifters, Donald Trump.

I don't know if Uncle Tim Scott was born with two 'tees' in his family name or whether he added a tee to obtain 'qualified' privilege.
 

Squire

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Fox News is a propaganda source for extremists.

Uncle Sam is on the run from Afghanistan and probably Iraq after creating another mess in Syria.

Uncle Sam is busy running propaganda for Israel at this time while the world is rapidly changing.

China is getting a respite from anti-Chinese propaganda by the US State Department while other areas of the world are igniting because of the hypocrisy and negligence of Uncle Sam.
 

Shellandshilo1956

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Wow. Just as there are "Uncle Tom" male Black sycophants and toadies, there are also "Aunt Jemima" female Black sycophants and toadies. And, after suffering through all the right-wing clichés, meaningless sound-bites, divisive party nonsense rhetoric, and coined platitudes, I now believe that this woman has never had an original thought in her life. She IS the very definition of an "Aunt Jemima". And, her party is using her to do their dirty work. And, are trying to attract more Blacks into the party.

I think even Sarah Palin would best her in any debate. IMHO
 
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HBS Guy

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“Uncle Tom” was not a sycophant! He would not have lost his life if he was. Apparently there were “Uncle Tom” shows that distorted the character of Tom as portrayed in Harriet Beecher Stowe’s “Uncle Tom’s Cabin.”
 

Squire

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People like Seth Bullock and his ilk perverted the character of Uncle Tom and turned it into a racist parody used in extremist propaganda.

The GOP and all Republicans are perverters and the enslavers of Uncle Tom and Uncle Tim.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/hist...-real-inspiration-uncle-toms-cabin-180969094/

... After the publication of Stowe’s novel, theater owners adapted the story for the stage, producing “Tom shows,” better known as “minstrel shows” that inverted version the novel’s plot. Played by white men in blackface, Tom was a caricature, an old hunchback with poor English who would happily sell out his own race to curry favor with his owner. Even though the novel was the best-selling book of the century, considerably more people saw one of these racist performances than read the book. That perversion of the name “Uncle Tom,” has stuck ever since. ...
 

Shellandshilo1956

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“Uncle Tom” was not a sycophant! He would not have lost his life if he was. Apparently there were “Uncle Tom” shows that distorted the character of Tom as portrayed in Harriet Beecher Stowe’s “Uncle Tom’s Cabin.”
I was NOT talking about a fictional slave in a book? Nor was I talking about the author of Üncle Tom's Cabin". She was more than just an abolitionist, she was truly a REAL hero. I was talking about two specific REAL people. I was talking about two liars in denial, who still suck up to their plantation masters. Tim Scott(liar, crook, and Black Whisperer for the Klan), and Winsome Sears(liar, synchopant, toadie, and Aunt Jemima). Neither are heroes. And, she certainly is no Tulsi Gabbard!!! IMHO

"Uncle Tom(Rastus) and Aunt Jemima", are not only racially derogatory terms, but they also represent a betrayal of Black subservience, and the Black culture. I don't see the relevance of "Uncle Tom's Cabin" here. But the actions of these two are very relevant. Republicans have been spewing out the same blame and divisive party rhetoric about Democrats, ever since Obama was elected. So, why are the comments by these two making the headlines? Could it be because they are both Black? And, what better place to showcase this, then on Fox News, right? We both know what will happen to them, the minute they get off the Republican teat? Or, what will happen to them if their party's perception strategy backfires, and more minorities end up hating the party?
 
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Squire

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I was NOT talking about a fictional slave in a book? Nor was I talking about the author of Üncle Tom's Cabin". She was more than just an abolitionist, she was truly a REAL hero. I was talking about two specific REAL people. I was talking about two liars in denial, who still suck up to their plantation masters. Tim Scott(liar, crook, and Black Whisperer for the Klan), and Winsome Sears(liar, synchopant, toadie, and Aunt Jemima). Neither are heroes. And, she certainly is no Tulsi Gabbard!!! IMHO

"Uncle Tom(Rastus) and Aunt Jemima", are not only racially derogatory terms, but they also represent a betrayal of Black subservience, and the Black culture. I don't see the relevance of "Uncle Tom's Cabin" here. But the actions of these two are very relevant. Republicans have been spewing out the same blame and divisive party rhetoric about Democrats, ever since Obama was elected. So, why are the comments by these two making the headlines? Could it be because they are both Black? And, what better place to showcase this, then on Fox News, right? We both know what will happen to them, the minute they get off the Republican teat? Or, what will happen to them if their party's perception strategy backfires, and more minorities end up hating the party?
Uncle Tim and Aunty Winsome have found ways to make money from conservative racists.
 
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