NSW is reporting the number of people who died "WITH" COVID. Is this a mistake?

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johnsmith

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You assumed that if there were only 25M people in Australia, then I could not be among the over 25M other uninfected Australians that I claimed
I knew you'd be stupid enough to ask me a third time. I didn't assume anything off the sort. I merely explained later that it was one option of several that were available to me. Hence the need for you to clarify.

You were just trying to save face, by making this silly supposition.
Except that I said nothing that I needed to save face from. That was all you dopey:stoopid.

At the time, THIS WAS THE CURRENT NUMBER OF INFECTED AUSTRALIANS.
You only made the comment a couple of days ago. It was no where near the current number at the time.:groan
 

Shellandshilo1956

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I knew you'd be stupid enough to ask me a third time. I didn't assume anything off the sort. I merely explained later that it was one option of several that were available to me. Hence the need for you to clarify.


Except that I said nothing that I needed to save face from. That was all you dopey:stoopid.


You only made the comment a couple of days ago. It was no where near the current number at the time.:groan
In other words, more of the same huff and bluff distractions, to avoid answering my questions. And, to save face!! I don't blame you. I would have avoided the questions as well.

I bring your lies and stupidity to everyone's attention. No need to thank me.:tips hat
Thank You?? I pity you!! Or, rather your self-serving delusions of grandeur. If your comments were not based entirely on semantics, you would have absolutely nothing to contribute. No, your only purpose is to exploit, and misrepresent anything I say, because you are a pathetic, sad, insecure, and insignificant troll. With zero depth of knowledge.

Did I or did I NOT say German Jews, that the poster was referring to? Is this term politically correct or not? Start backpedaling again!!
 

johnsmith

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I would have avoided the questions as well.
no, you never avoid asking stupid questions about something that has nothing to do with what we're discussing. You seem to think creating red herrings is a good distraction from whatever stupidity you are trying to hide at the time.


Thank You
you're welcome.

Did I or did I NOT say German Jews, that the poster was referring to?
does that change the fact that you later referred to them simply as Jews?
 

Shellandshilo1956

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no, you never avoid asking stupid questions about something that has nothing to do with what we're discussing. You seem to think creating red herrings is a good distraction from whatever stupidity you are trying to hide at the time.
How are my questions NOT germane to the discussion? What were the red herrings that I created? And, what is the stupidity that I am trying to hide?

you're welcome.
Truly delusional!

does that change the fact that you later referred to them simply as Jews?
Yes! Absolutely!!
 

Shellandshilo1956

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12 new Covid-19-related deaths in Queensland. 3 were over 60yo, and 9 were over 70yr. Only 4 victims were unvaccinated, and 8 victims were vaccinated with at least one dose of this poison. All died with at least 3 other comorbidities. But who cares about that?

Because of this, on Feb. 7th, it will be compulsory that all Highschool students must wear masks. It will also be encouraged that even year 3 and up wear masks as well. Is this a preview of the new Australia we will live in? Our pets will be next. These leaders must really be having a good laugh at our docile compliancy!!

Dick announces 12 new COVID deaths, masks mandatory for high school students (msn.com)
 

HBS Guy

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It is a vaccine not a poison.

So a third of the people who died were unvaccinated. That is way more of a proportion of the unvaxxed than the proportion of the unvaxxed in the general population. Two more only had one dose of the vaccine so half of the people that died were effectively unvaxxed.

From Set’s link:
About 10 per cent of the population is unvaccinated, but they make up a third of all deaths in Queensland [from COVID-19] in the last reporting period.
This shows the vaccines are working.
 
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stunspore

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This shows the vaccines are working.
Shell already admits it works. But from what i gather, is that taking vaccine is more risky or not needed compared to severity of covid. And then the complaint about vaccine mandate/freedom, economic issues and what ever else conspiracy nonsense.
 

HBS Guy

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We are in a pandemic, the only “right” to be worried about is the right to go on living, to have safeguards put in place to prevent or reduce the spread of the disease.
 

johnsmith

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How are my questions NOT germane to the discussion?
Because I'm not discussing your ideas on covid. You've been repeating the same crap over and over for months now, why would any sane person encourage you to keep repeating yoruself even more? What I was discussing was what you meant with one particular comment you made. That's it. Nothing else you said was worth addressing.
 

Shellandshilo1956

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It is a vaccine not a poison.

You can either look it up, or use your own commonsense. ANY foreign material that enters the body and induces an immune response, IS POISONOUS TO THE BODY!! This response is the only mechanism for the body to get rid of the poison/pathogen. Do you think that the antibodies produced, will simply ignore the vaccine-created antigens??


"COVID-19 vaccines are schedule four poisons (here), meaning they are prescription-only medicines that should be administered only by trained professionals; you cannot buy a vaccine at a local shop and inject yourself.".

So a third of the people who died were unvaccinated. That is way more of a proportion of the unvaxxed than the proportion of the unvaxxed in the general population. Two more only had one dose of the vaccine so half of the people that died were effectively unvaxxed.
More of the same self-serving bullshit. All this shows, is that 4 out of the 12 deaths(33%) in NSW were unvaccinated. THAT'S ALL!! When 7 out of the 29 recorded deaths in NSW were unvaccinated, this represents 24% of those deaths. As you can see, the stats will keep changing. This is just you trying to force-fit unrelated facts, to support your own self-serving narrative/bias. Only a desperate moronic fanatic, would extrapolate these changing rates of unvaccinated deaths, in the 12 or 29 reported deaths, and say that they also represent the entire unvaccinated population. It is just another irresponsible lie, and more of the same baseless fear-mongering for the ignorant.

Why do you vaccine junkies keep avoiding the most obvious question? Why are fully VACCINATED(2 or more doses) victims dying at all? Are you now saying that it is just inevitable that more vaccinated people in the population will die, BECAUSE THERE ARE JUST MORE OF THEM?? That's like saying more White Australians will die with this virus than Aboriginals will, because there are more of them. So you try to baffle people with these silly relative rates, and meaningless comparisons. Eventually you Neanderthals will realize, that it is ONLY the condition of the immune system, that will determine whether you will die with this virus, or recover from this virus. Vaccines, or drugs at the Chemist, will help with the symptoms, and also reduce the spread of this virus.

We are in a pandemic, the only “right” to be worried about is the right to go on living, to have safeguards put in place to prevent or reduce the spread of the disease.
A flu-like illness with a survival rate of 99.9%? Are you insane?? You force children to stick this poison into their arm. You destroy your own economy. You place insane restrictions on your interstate and international borders. You force people across many industries to either stick this poison in their arm, or look for another job. And, then you brag about how many vaccinated people there are. You encourage bigotry, discrimination, elitism, and a 2 class society. You are now forcing people to have 3 doses within weeks to be considered fully vaccinated(and there will be more). You allow the government to invade your privacy, and control how your business is run. You now require our school-age children to wear masks at school. Pet vaccinations will be next! Finally, you suppress public dissention, and the expression of free speech and assembly. Someone is certainly making a fortune!!

These things may mean nothing to you. But they mean a lot to me. In the US, these freedoms CANNOT BE TAKEN AWAY without due process. This is not the case here. Other countries have already ended this insanity, and have nothing but pity for Australia. Soon, the world will see Australia as a nation of Trumps. We have done more damage to our society and its image, than the virus ever could. All thanks to sheeples like you, who still think that this viral apocalypse, will kill every man, woman, child, and pet!! Even after over two years have passed.
 

HBS Guy

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Sorry, ALL the figures show there are more unvaxxed who end up in hospital and die.

The vaccines work. You have written SCREEDS of bullshit. For FUCKS sake sit down and do some research and stop your screed after screed of bullshit! Or fuck off, your choice. I am fed up to the backteeth with this CRAP!

US figures:
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Shellandshilo1956

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Shell already admits it works.
So far so good!

But from what i gather, is that taking vaccine is more risky or not needed compared to severity of covid. And then the complaint about vaccine mandate/freedom, economic issues and what ever else conspiracy nonsense.
And now the misrepresentation and bullshit begins. I'll try again. If you are NOT in any of the high risk categories, the vaccine is NOT necessary. Your natural immune system is the better choice, for the reasons I've mentioned in earlier posts. Including all those who have recovered before vaccines were released. The stats have consistently pointed this out. I believe that all vaccines should be VOLUNTARY. It is your body, therefore your choice. Once the government is allowed to force people(directly/indirectly) to put anything into their body, we create a very dangerous slippery slope! I believe that children definitely don't need to be vaccinated, because their immune system is much better than any adult's. Again, stats also point this out! Have you looked in the supermarkets lately, or the latest job's figures? Or, maybe Australia's GNP? No conspiracy here!


Since you and the other poster love to deflate any facts I deposit, as just another conspiracy theory, then what exactly is the conspiracy theory that I am peddling? Everything I've mentioned exist in real-time. And is still happening now! Unvaccinated people ARE being told to leave restaurants and shops. If any specific thing I've said is wrong, then explain why it is wrong. Do vaccines directly prevent people from becoming infected, having serious symptoms, spreading this virus, or dying from this virus? Yes or No? Should people be coerced, shamed, discriminated against, or lose their jobs, for not being vaccinated? Yes or No? Should a 5yo be vaccinated, or forced to wear a mask in their Pre-school class? Yes or No? I don't even care about your explanations. A simple yes or no will tell me all I need to know.
 

HBS Guy

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Vaccines hugely reduce your chance of serious illness and death. End of story. You can’t wear masks when eating, excellent opportunity for the virus to spread. Get the jab.
 

Shellandshilo1956

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Sorry, ALL the figures show there are more unvaxxed who end up in hospital and die.

The vaccines work. You have written SCREEDS of bullshit. For FUCKS sake sit down and do some research and stop your screed after screed of bullshit! Or fuck off, your choice. I am fed up to the backteeth with this CRAP!

US figures:
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Are you are saying that I must get in line, and agree with you, or fuck-off?? Before I get to this crony censorship, I don't give shit about the US's figures. They have nothing to do with Australia. Did you forget to mention that they have an unvaccinated population of 30-40%(not 7-10% in Australia)? Or, that all the partially vaccinated people were excluded(read the fine print) in the graph? How about that the overwhelming majority of those death, were people over 80yo with multiple co-morbidities? Of course not! It's all about maintaining the right optics and bias!

I definitely do my research very well. Hence why all the explanations and verifiable facts, that you must ignore and avoid. Facts that keep people like you stuck only in repeat mode, or making claims that they can never back up. You most certainly should practice what you preach. At least learn what these vaccines do to your immune system. And, how these vaccines and the immune system actually work!

Regarding your censorship threats, and your sad fake outrage, you're just another weak crony looking for an excuse to censor my speech, and shutdown another thread. Just because you don't like what you hear. Just another insecure control freak, who feels that HIS is the only poison that should be heard. You are no different than the government you claim to criticize. Just another closet hypocritical government crony politician.

No one is forcing you to respond to anything I say. And, I only respond to people who respond to my posts. So, If you don't like what you hear, DON'T RESPOND! I don't care. Because, other than baseless denials, and parroted empty soundbites, and very little verifiable facts, it is all mostly hearsay and opinions!

Vaccines hugely reduce your chance of serious illness and death. End of story. You can’t wear masks when eating, excellent opportunity for the virus to spread. Get the jab.
Even a good diet, and a healthy lifestyle can reduce your chances of a serious illnesses or even death. I don't deny that even this vaccine, can reduce your chances of serious symptoms and deaths. The sooner the antibodies can respond to the antigen, the better your chances of recovery are. But this choice should always be voluntary. Not forced on anyone by coercion, shaming, job-ransoming, or being discriminated against. Also points you ignored to address. If you want to get the jab, GET IT! No one is stopping you.

What does getting the jab, have to do spreading the virus? You can also take a chemist's flu-cocktail which will also reduce your symptoms as well. Maybe we should have people only lift their masks, just enough to allow a fork to enter their mouth. This can also reduce the spread! Oh, does it even matter that well over 90% of all Australians aren't even infected? Or, does that even matter to you vaccine junkies??

I just can't get over the image of 5yo's sitting in a classroom, and all these kids forced to wear masks. This seems more like child abuse than an introduction to their social development. Just mass insanity!!
 

Shellandshilo1956

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Because I'm not discussing your ideas on covid. You've been repeating the same crap over and over for months now, why would any sane person encourage you to keep repeating yoruself even more? What I was discussing was what you meant with one particular comment you made. That's it. Nothing else you said was worth addressing.
Just more of the same deflective johnsmith gibberish and doubletalk. I don't give a shit what you think that you're discussing. Clearly, it's not the same as what I'm discussing. Maybe if you were discussing what I was, I wouldn't be going down these avoidance rabbit-holes for months, just for you to save face. You couldn't even answer ONE simple question without hedging or grasping at semantics. I guess if you say that nothing I say is worth you answering, then I guess you don't have to answer, right? How convenient!! You can say anything you want, and no one can question you? How egocentric!!!

Do you want another example of you avoiding my questions, or making excuses? Go back to the sandbox, and preach to your select choir. Outside, you would be a joke!
 
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