Antivax movement imploding in Oz.

[Shellandshilo1956]

There are three issues

1 - you are thicker than pig shit
2 - We've dealt with enough morons like you to start on the front foot
3 - you refuse to answer anything any one says, or address the complete and utter ridiculous nature of your claim

I would rather be "..thicker than pig shit", a "..hopeless moron", or completely divorced from reality, THEN TO BECOME ONE-DIMENSIONAL THINKERS LIKE YOU TWO! And I have certainly seen, the sad, pathetic, and dishonest ways that you two science illiterates try to deal with people who disagree with you.

I have also dealt with my share of morons. But they usually concede when they are buried under the sheer weight of the facts and logic. But these people can still use the few working brain cells they have left!

 

[Shellandshilo1956]

Calm down, Shell, and go pat Shilo. Hope you found the $2.65.

Your crackpot ideas on vaccination have been busted, your psychology exposed, and your movement is in the toilet.

You're crap is yawn worthy at best. You've lost my interest.

Peddle it elsewhere, loon.

Stuck on repeat mode, Linus?? Move the needle idiot!

 

[FutureTheLeftWant]

I would rather be "..thicker than pig shit", a "..hopeless moron", or completely divorced from reality, THEN TO BECOME ONE-DIMENSIONAL THINKERS LIKE YOU TWO! And I have certainly seen, the sad, pathetic, and dishonest ways that you two science illiterates try to deal with people who disagree with you.

So to recap you are mad we only trust facts from credible sources? You do you, I guess

 

[Linus]

Stuck on repeat mode, Linus?? Move the needle idiot!

I can't, Shell, because you're broken. What's there to talk about? You're done and dusted.

The mRNA vaccination program has been successful.

Your "arguments" against mRNA were refuted. Evidence was provided. But you know better than virologists and the medical profession.

You are a freeloader who depends on the rest of us doing the right thing.

Your psychology has been exposed. You're essentially a nutter.

Your antivax movement is in the toilet because people have seen the truth.

Pule on as much as you like. There's nothing left of your case, and your movement is in the toilet...

but there is a ray of light for you, a therapist.

Good luck, Shell. Regards to Shilo .

 

[Shellandshilo1956]

So to recap you are mad we only trust facts from credible sources? You do you, I guess

If you actually did this, we wouldn't be having this conversation. What upsets me, is how closed-minded and toady you both are. How little cognitive abilities you both use. How quickly you dismiss any dissenting opinions. And, how easily you both rationalize half-truths, omissions, and distortions of the facts. For example,

I give you the about the percentage of those recovering from this virus. You ignore it!
I tell you most people die from multiple comorbidities, not the virus. You ignore it!
I tell when there were no vaccines, most people recovered naturally. You ignore it!
I tell even vaccinated people catch, spread, and die from this virus. You ignore it!
I tell you the percentage of the population that is actually infected. You ignore it!

These are just a few of the things I'm talking about. So to recap, it is the dismissal of OTHER facts, and OTHER credible sources that makes me sad. Because the mind is such a terrible thing to waste. And, I will always do me. Because no one else is responsible for me!

 

[johnsmith]

So, I'm suppose to look through everything I've said, find out for myself, what disinformation and lies I've stated.

Or you can just accept it was all pretty much crap and move on. Either way works fine for me.

 

[Linus]

And she still ignores that most people recover and don't get seriously ill or die and don't fill up the wards like the unvaccinated , and protect idiots like her is because they are vaccinated.

The UN, medical experts, virologists, regulatory authorites, governments all over the world got it all wrong. And they were so nasty for impinging on her "freedom of choice" for a little while to prevent our hospital system being overwhelmed.

BTW, Shell, you were never forced to take the vaccine and are still not.

You're just a self-centred clown and an incubator for mutating Covid with daddy issues.

 

[Shellandshilo1956]

I can't, Shell, because you're broken. What's there to talk about? You're done and dusted.

Now you're just being delusional. Try an maintain some self-respect will you? If I'm broken, then you really must be fucked!

The mRNA vaccination program has been successful.

It has? With all the threats, fines, imprisonments, the loss of jobs, destruction of our economy, lockdowns and restrictions, and the end of our civil liberties, this has NOT been a win. Especially, knowing that those vaccinated are still getting sick and dying. Very successful indeed! But hey, this is your delusion. Maybe if you keep telling these lies to yourself over and over again, they just might become the truth!

Your "arguments" against mRNA were refuted. Evidence was provided. But you know better than virologists and the medical profession.

You are a freeloader who depends on the rest of us doing the right thing.

Your psychology has been exposed. You're essentially a nutter.

Your antivax movement is in the toilet because people have seen the truth.

Pule on as much as you like. There's nothing left of your case, your movement is in the toilet...

but there is a ray of light for you, a therapist.

Good luck, Shell. Regards to Shilo .

Thank you. And, you should really take your own advice.

 

[Shellandshilo1956]

Or you can just accept it was all pretty much crap and move on. Either way works fine for me.

And again, IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU JOHN! How many people do you know that ever admits that all they talk about is crap?

It's okay. It was just another Johnsmith huff and bluff, that was again challenged! I'm not going to again remind you that when you accuse people of something, you should be able to defend it. But since you're no better than these other two morons, why bother??

 

[Linus]

You are a danger to yourself and everyone else around you. The government did what it had to do on the best medical advice. Our hospital system would have been overwhelmed.

No one is bluffing or huffing. You're just plain wrong on every count.

Like every zealot you're impervious to any reason or fact.

Everyone is wrong Shell, you know better.

Do you realise how insane you sound?

Scratch that, you are insane.

Go off like a firecracker as much as you like ,Shell, we're over it.

 

[Linus]

What happens when anti-vaxxers contract COVID?

Should anti-vaxxers get a taste of the “fake news” they’ve been peddling?

https://www.jpost.com/health-science/what-happens-when-anti-vaxxers-contract-covid-676520

 

[Shellandshilo1956]

You are a danger to yourself and everyone else around you. The government did what it had to do on the best medical advice. Our hospital system would have been overwhelmed.

No one is bluffing or huffing. You're just plain wrong on every count.

Like every zealot you're impervious to any reason or fact.

Everyone is wrong Shell, you know better.

Do you realise how insane you sound?

Scratch that, you are insane.

Go off like a firecracker as much as you like ,Shell, we're over it.

One pathetic strawman after another. One baseless accusation after another. You obviously have very little dignity, or personal pride. And, certainly I could be wrong, BUT YOU CERTAINLY HAVE NEVER DEMONSTRATED WHY I AM!!

The only REASONING that people like you ever require, is what other people tell you. Simply repeating insults does not address the issues. I asked you HOW my being uninfected effects you? And, that heavily vaccinated people are still being infected. Still having serious symptoms. Still infecting others. And, still dying from this virus. And, all you can say is,

"You are a danger to yourself and everyone else around you. The government did what it had to do on the best medical advice. Our hospital system would have been overwhelmed.".

Exactly what you would expect any sycophant to rationalize, and twist reality to fit their narrative. No evidence, no facts, no consistent logic, no data, JUST REPEATED ACCUSATIONS! Is this the only thing you are reduced to?

 

[Linus]

What happens when anti-vaxxers contract COVID?

Should anti-vaxxers get a taste of the “fake news” they’ve been peddling?

https://www.jpost.com/health-science/what-happens-when-anti-vaxxers-contract-covid-676520


Your beyond help, maybe contracting Covid will help you see the light( so to speak)

 

[Shellandshilo1956]

What happens when anti-vaxxers contract COVID?

Should anti-vaxxers get a taste of the “fake news” they’ve been peddling?

https://www.jpost.com/health-science/what-happens-when-anti-vaxxers-contract-covid-676520

Does this kind of testimonial apply to every unvaccinated person with becomes infected? Or, are you trying dishonestly, to imply that if you are infected and unvaccinated, that you will become critically ill. And that if you are vaccinated, that you won't? But what about the the victims of Covid-19 during the first 14 months before vaccines? Where 85% of the Covid-19 victims were reporting zero to moderate symptoms. But since this fact doesn't fit your narrative, let's just dismiss it as well!

Are you also saying, that any news that disagrees, or challenges your core beliefs, IS JUST FAKE NEWS?

It is your right to believe anything you want. I have to believe only the things that make sense to me. I can't look at a tree, and say that it's a cat. No matter how many "experts" tell me that it really is a cat. Unless you are in the quantum world, you are a victim of "cognitive dissonance". But I don't really care!

 

[Linus]

You're a self-centered freeloader Shell.

You're self-centred because you won't get vaccinated. In doing so you pose a risk not only to yourself but everyone around you, especially the vulnerable and those with comorbidities.You're a transmitter and potential incubator for viral mutations that cause these breakthrough cases. Thus you serve to undermine herd immunity

You are a freeloader because you are dependent on the herd immunity afforded by the vaccines. We the vaccinated stop the virus in our bodies so they don't jump to yours you miserable hag.

 

[johnsmith]

And again, IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU JOHN!

hey, I left it for you to decide which option you take ........nothing to do with whats good for me. if it was about what was good for me I'd have booted your arse out of here ages ago

 

[Lols]

I'm going to call you out here lols. You've spent the last 2 years criticizing Dan for lockdowns after he followed all the medical advice of the day, and now you're criticizing him for not following it?


There's just no pleasing you

I’ve been out all day as the sun was shining… went to visit my son down the peninsula as he is still recovering from a leg injury from his motor bike…. So we say we will go to the pub for lunch… in Mornington…. On the way we see a police chopper hovering…. Over the rocky area… and a diver is lowered down… I wanted to stay but the lads wanted to go to lunch… sad news is there was a dead young girl on rocks that was retrieved. That’s all I know for now…

Anyway… back to the Dan comment…I did agree last 2 years with mask mandates and distancing rules… and the hand sanitizers!
But the border locks… the inability to drive further than 5 kms… inability to see your family member in hospital…. Etc was the pits!
I had an op booked in private hospital just as lockdown happened… my hubby was at a loss not able to come see me in hospital… and I was alone in the hospital room… which is okay… except for a ghost night nurse that visited and flickered the light … and whispered her name … I asked the nurse in morning if there are any experiences other patients or nurses had…
She said yes she heard storeys some have had experiences.
Now back again to the Dan comment.
You know something…. I was thinking today as we struggled with traffic on the way there to Mornington and back…I had to think of some positives during lockdowns…. how pleasant it was when there was little traffic in roads, how quiet it was… the air fresher…. how little I spent as no shopping except for online…. and… how greatful I was that we lived on acreage.
But I am empathic for the businesses that struggled and closed down… for instance we passed one burger place in Ferntree Gully that used to thrive before lockdown…. Only to be boarded up and graffitied with grass 5 ft tall.

All that restriction may have slown down the virus spread but it didn’t stop it at all.
And neither is the covid vax stopping it.
My son’s mother in law has worked in the funeral industry for 20 years… she said there has been an overwhelming of bodies they can’t take … no room… more than busy… and many other funeral parlours also. Her work place is considering expanding to accomodate more holding of bodies.
So where are we now? 90% people double/triple vaxxed?
Back to Dan…. he was this attention power mad “I’m locking down Melbourne more than anyone else in the world” trick….
So why not enforce mask mandates at least?
What’s going on in his little head?
I’m asking and referring to this because he has shown either way too harsh one way… then way too lax another way.
Inconsistency and hypocrisy.
Oh and… when I try to tell Queenslanders up there how harsh it was for us in Melbourne… there’s a vague look as they had no idea.
To be told is wasn’t so bad for them like that.

here’s a pic I took today of police chopper and diver being lowered. I wonder if a gal was taking a selfie and fell? I’ve seen those things happen on those ambulance shows.

http://imgur.com/a/ao1tIvl

 

[HBS Guy]

Mask mandates should be reintroduced for sure! Aldi still have working sanitiser dispensers by their entrances.

The vaccines do work—the really sick are overwhelmingly unvaxxed people tho that is a tiny minority these days.

 

[Lols]

Mask mandates should be reintroduced for sure! Aldi still have working sanitiser dispensers by their entrances.

The vaccines do work—the really sick are overwhelmingly unvaxxed people tho that is a tiny minority these days.

I do not think it is just unvaxxed that are really sick…. I know from our closest, how sick and hospitalised they were after their 2nd and 3rd jab.
I was sick in January but didn’t need hospitalisation. Maybe I’m a lucky strong gal with a good immune system? I’ve not had any sniffles, sore throat etc since… I wonder if it’s the antibodies I now have?
Today… when we took my son to the pub for lunch…. there were plenty tables empty and the waitress was going to put us in close amongst other diners….No fkn social distancing! My son straight away asked to go to a table that was further away from being smugg amongst people. Good on him…I’m glad he did that! It didn’t occur to me until he asked.

 

[Shellandshilo1956]

ou're a self-centered freeloader Shell.

You're self-centred because you won't get vaccinated. In doing so you pose a risk not only to yourself but everyone around you, especially the vulnerable and those with comorbidities.You're a transmitter and potential incubator for viral mutations that cause these breakthrough cases. Thus you serve to undermine herd immunity

You are a freeloader because you are dependent on the herd immunity afforded by the vaccines. We the vaccinated stop the virus in our bodies so they don't jump to yours you miserable hag.

Finally the true you has immerged! You can't even use your own words anymore. So you have to repeat mine. Are you saying, that anyone who refuses to mindlessly jump on the bandwagon, are just freeloader? Really!! My question was HOW, you moron?? How does an uninfected person pose a direct threat to you, the most vulnerable, those with comorbidities, or to anyone who is vaccinated?? We are all incubators of viruses, and their mutations. That is WHY we have an immune system in the first place. What are "breakthrough cases"?

So viruses are now tiny fleas, jumping from body to body?? If vaccinations stop the virus, so that it doesn't jump to my body, then WHY are fully vaccinated people still being infected and reinfected?? WHY are fully vaccinated people still dying?? WHY are fully vaccinated people still developing serious symptoms?? And, why are fully vaccinated still spreading this virus?? Here's a hint dumb-dumb, It's probably dependent on the condition of their innate and acquired immune systems! NOT WHETHER THEY ARE VACCINATED OR NOT! Or, just maybe, THEY DIED FROM SOMETHING ELSE! At some point your logic is going to sound so ridiculous, that even you won't believe it anymore.

"Miserable hag"?? Now that IS funny!