⮞ Texas Abortion Ban Stays In Effect With Help From SCOTUS ⮜

hatty

cynical profane bastard
still doesn't take away from the fact that gun toting bible thumpers are stupid, selfish fuckwits.

they should mind their own GOD DAMN business. can i blaspheme again?

oh you bet i can......oooooh i'm going to hell (lol).... at least i'll know someone there and wont have to put up with DRX's bullshit.
 

HBS Guy

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Control of uppity wimmen is what it is about. Religion is just window dressing. I will end up in the same circle of hell as Hatty. Could be worse.
 

hatty

cynical profane bastard
haha don't be so sure.... i can be a grumpy bastard at times :) :)

i suppose the pit fires of hell will be more bearable than me fucking swearing a lot :)

maybe i will repent.......? yeah nah!:biker
 
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DreamRyderX

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Supreme Court appears open to upholding a 15-week
Mississippi abortion ban in a major case that
could gut Roe v. Wade

Source: The Business Insider
✪ The Supreme Court on Wednesday heard nearly two hours of arguments on the biggest abortion challenge before the court in decades.

✪ Mississippi has asked the court to uphold its law that bans abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy and to overturn the landmark 1973 ruling, Roe v. Wade.

✪ The court’s conservative justices seemed open to Mississippi’s position.

The Supreme Court on Wednesday seemed open to upholding a 15-week abortion ban in Mississippi in a major case whose decision could ultimately overturn or curtail abortion rights established in the landmark 1973 ruling, Roe v. Wade.

The case, Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, centers on a 2018 Mississippi law that bans abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy. That’s ahead of the standard set in Roe, which declared that states cannot prohibit abortion before roughly 24 weeks of pregnancy, the point when a fetus can survive outside of the womb, commonly referred to as viability.

Mississippi has asked the nation’s highest court to overrule Roe, as well as another major 1992 abortion decision, Planned Parenthood v. Casey, which established that states cannot impose an “undue burden” on abortion rights.

Scott Stewart, Mississippi’s solicitor general, opened his arguments on Wednesday by ripping into the decades-old rulings.

“They have no home in our history or traditions. They’ve damaged the democratic process. They’ve poisoned the law. They’ve choked off compromise,” he said. “No where else does this court recognize a right to end human life.”

During nearly two hours of oral arguments, the justices grappled with the potential implications of a future without Roe and Casey. The court’s conservative justices, through their questioning, appeared inclined to go somewhat in that direction.

Conservative Justice Samuel Alito questioned the viability mark.

“On the other side, the fetus has an interest in having a life,” he said. “That doesn’t change, does it, from the point before viability to the point after viability?”

The Center for Reproductive Rights’ Julie Rikelman, defending Mississippi’s sole abortion provider, Jackson Women’s Health Organization, responded: “In some people’s view it doesn’t, your honor, but what the court said is that those philosophical differences couldn’t be resolved.”

Justice Brett Kavanaugh, a Trump appointee, also brought up the interests of fetal life versus a pregnant woman on Wednesday.

“You can’t accommodate both interests. You have to pick. That’s the fundamental problem,” he said. “One interest has to prevail over the other at any given point in time, and that’s why this is so challenging.”

Kavanaugh pointed out a series of decisions in which the court overturned precedent, including ending school segregation and legalizing same-sex marriage, and questioned the role of the court.

“If we think that the prior precedents are seriously wrong, if that, why then doesn’t the history of this court’s practice with respect to those cases tell us that the right answer is actually a return to the position of neutrality?” Kavanaugh asked. “Why should this court be the arbiter rather than Congress?”

Justice Amy Coney Barrett, the newest member of the court, commented on whether “safe haven laws,” which allow parents to surrender their baby to designated places, such as hospitals, for adoption, matter when considering the “burdens of parenting” discussed in Roe and Casey.

“Why don’t the safe haven laws take care of that problem?” Barrett asked Rikelman.

Rikelman followed up by arguing that the court already considered a woman’s ability to place a child up for adoption when it decided Roe, and that forcing a woman to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term “itself is unique.”

“It imposes unique physical demands and risk on women and in fact has impact on all of their lives, on their ability to care for other children, other family members, on their ability to work,” she said.

Ahead of Wednesday’s arguments, legal scholars told Insider that they expect Barrett and Kavanaugh to have outsized influence over the ruling, with one of them making the deciding vote that could determine the fate of abortion rights in the country.

Chief Justice John Roberts, usually the most moderate of the court’s conservatives, also signaled a willingness to uphold Mississippi’s law but offered a narrower view of the case, focusing on the 15-week ban rather than Roe.

“The point you made about the impact on women and their place in society, those words are certainly made in Roe as well. What we have before us though is a 15-week standard,” Roberts told Rikelman.

“Viability, it seems to me, has nothing to do with choice,” he went on, asking: “If it really is an issue about choice, why is 15 weeks not enough time?” ......continued
Roe v.Wade & legalized abortion, as you see & love it, might be doomed beyond repair......cast to the scrap heaps of the past.........

That may not stop women from murdering the unborn, but it will save millions upon millions of lives, where today there is nothing more than the unrestrained slaughter of the innocent, there is a hope for a better tomorrow.......an opportunity for life......a life so wanting a chance to live, echoing in the Courts chambers..........after 50+ years of butchery, will they finally be heard?


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HBS Guy

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The morning–after pill makes all that crap moot. No lives (fetuses) will be saved save a few and some mothers will die/be severely injured by backyard abortionists who are loving these insecure peanuts enacting this shit legislation.

You obviously feel unmanned by women being able to control their own fertility, feel only males can make decisions for women, right?
 

Shellandshilo1956

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Supreme Court appears open to upholding a 15-week
Mississippi abortion ban in a major case that
could gut Roe v. Wade

Source: The Business Insider

Roe v.Wade & legalized abortion, as you see & love it, might be doomed beyond repair......cast to the scrap heaps of the past.........

That may not stop women from murdering the unborn, but it will save millions upon millions of lives, where today there is nothing more than the unrestrained slaughter of the innocent, there is a hope for a better tomorrow.......an opportunity for life......a life so wanting a chance to live, echoing in the Courts chambers..........after 50+ years of butchery, will they finally be heard?


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Here's a question for you. Why can't anything of mass travel faster than the speed of light?

It is sad that history has taught us nothing about trying to control what the majority of people really want. Because of the irrational and misguided beliefs of a minority of vocal religious zealots, we are all doomed to repeat the same mistake. People who ignore the fact that the majority of Americans are pro-abortion. People whose belief system is based entirely from cherry-picking scriptures from the most pro-abortion book ever written by man. The Bible! Did you know that only 1 in 3 fertilized eggs implant in the womb, and will spontaneously abort naturally? That's millions of dead unborn humans every year in the US.. Does this mean that God has murdered these unborn humans? Or, does He still just work in mysterious ways?


It is sad, that based on the collective mindset of morally disillusioned hypocrites, that thousands of women will be forced to risk dying prematurely. Dying during their pregnancy, during childbirth, or from using backyard butchers and opportunists. These misguided moralists, will eventually attack every means to stop women from having an abortion. Including banning all abortion pills.

But make no mistake, women will abort their unwanted pregnancies, no matter what decision is handed down by the court. Or, anything these moral zealots can come up with. So if you want to keep on deluding yourself, that because abortion numbers will go down, because fewer abortions are being done, then that is on par with your psychosis. Of course it only means that more abortions are simply not being reported, duh!! But more disturbing, is that even a Supreme Court justice has stated, "..that women can still put their child up for abortion, therefore their abortion rights are not being violated.." . This kind of contradictory thinking clearly demonstrates just how far this madness has travelled.

At least California and New York have stated that abortions will always be allowed in their state. But of course these bands of delusional religious psychotics will then push the federal government into banning abortions in all states. THEN THE REVELUTION WILL BEGIN! Eventually making any woman not wanting to have a child, a criminal. This is just another ceiling that men have raised to control the sexual behavior of women, and the most private and exclusive aspect of womanhood. I believe that abortion will be the next "slavery". How many women will have to die, before this madness will end?

Why are there no laws controlling the sexual behavior of men? Why are there no laws forcing men to wear protections to prevent pregnancy? Why are there no laws forcing men to raise the life that they've created? If these issues were ever addressed, we wouldn't be having this conversation!!! Just hypocrisy!

This is just a major step backward towards gender and social equality. I use to think, that women having the right to have control over her own reproductive system was a no-brainer. Clearly, IT DOES REQUIRE A BRAIN!!!
 
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DreamRyderX

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Will US Abortion Law Be Changed?

Please listen to the Justices of the United States Supreme Court as they ask pertinent questions, & hear arguments from both sides of the Abortion Issue......From the Pro-Life Side, & from the Pro-Death Side....

The Nine (9) Justices of the United States Supreme Court will come to decisions on this contentious issue, within the next few months, that may very well change how future determinations pertaining to Abortion will be decided. These are the Justices that will be making many of the decisions that affect ± 600,000 precious little lives yearly in America.

My fervent hopes & prayers are that they will decide on the side of LIFE over DEATH........



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HBS Guy

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Pro life, pro death? Not that you use emotive language or anything.

The morning–after pill makes all this moot anyway, hence the drop in abortion procedures. But some women, in desperation, will turn to backyard abortionists and some of these will suffer horrifically. That is “pro life.”
 

hatty

cynical profane bastard
Sorry DRX but your beloved shit hole and your government is fucked.

have your beliefs...... you are entitled to them....... just don't ram them down a woman's throat you hypocritical cunt!
 

DreamRyderX

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Sorry DRX but your beloved shit hole and your government is fucked.

have your beliefs...... you are entitled to them....... just don't ram them down a woman's throat you hypocritical cunt!


A Soon to be FACT: Abortion's Roe v. Wade is as dead as Kelsey's nuts, but not all at once, or immediately.

.....A Slow Demise via a Thousand Cuts......​


 
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HBS Guy

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This deprivation of liberty of women won’t have the effect you think. The morning after pill and backyard abortionists will see to that.
 

DreamRyderX

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This deprivation of liberty of women won’t have the effect you think. The morning after pill and backyard abortionists will see to that.
If the State passes legislation similar to Texas, & they up the bounty, in order to get the pill they need to fill a script....both supplier & script writers will have to think twice about the bounty hunters, that will most probably have access to the system courtesy of the State leaving the back doors open. The risk will make the cost of both pills & scripts skyrocket.


Backyard Abortionists will quadruple their fees at least to make it worth their risk. Those Bounty Hunters don't play fair either. Sting operations would make those Backyard Abortionists very, very skittish.....
 

Shellandshilo1956

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Will US Abortion Law Be Changed?

Please listen to the Justices of the United States Supreme Court as they ask pertinent questions, & hear arguments from both sides of the Abortion Issue......From the Pro-Life Side, & from the Pro-Death Side....

The Nine (9) Justices of the United States Supreme Court will come to decisions on this contentious issue, within the next few months, that may very well change how future determinations pertaining to Abortion will be decided. These are the Justices that will be making many of the decisions that affect ± 600,000 precious little lives yearly in America.

My fervent hopes & prayers are that they will decide on the side of LIFE over DEATH........



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My hope is that these Justices will decide in favor of the basic personal liberties of all women, over the certain deaths and suffering of women. My hope is that these Justices will not be influenced, by the selfish needs of delusional well-meaning hypocrites.

I'm going to assume that you haven't watched this video. Because, based on what I've seen, it will take divine intervention to save this abortion bill. The states worst strategy was to have a man(Scott Stewart) argue to force women to carry their pregnancies to term. And, not to allow them the right to have a safe and legal abortions.

The prochoice oral arguments by Elizabeth Prelogar and Julie Rikelman, were just brilliant. Even the Justices acknowledged this.
 

DreamRyderX

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The Right to an Abortion was founded in bad law, or better yet, in artificially contrived law.

The so called "Woman's Right to an Abortion" will be decided along Constitutional lines......That there never was a so called "Right to an Abortion" ...... to take an innocent life in the womb for selfish reasons ..... anywhere in the United States Constitution prior to 1973.

Ideology may have brought this dispute to a head after almost 50 years of 'legalized' human butchery, but abortion's eventual resolution will rest in it's Constitutionality...or lack there of.




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HBS Guy

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“Human butchery” just listen to yourself.

A quarter of a million kids in foster care and you want to add to that and ruin many womens’ lives at the same time? The morning after pill is not stopped in Texas and will not be stopped in Mississipi either.

There is a right to life and liberty in the constitution, right? Why do you want to take away womens’ liberty?
 

Shellandshilo1956

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The Right to an Abortion was founded in bad law, or better yet, in artificially contrived law.
You mean like the right for ordinary citizens to bear arms? The Constitution says only people in the militia has this right. Yet this right was interpreted differently by the courts. I don't hear you right to life people complaining about the right to kill people!

But when the courts interpreted the due process, the privacy, and the personal liberty clauses, as they related to a woman's reproductive autonomy, you scream that the law is bad and contrived.

What is so hypocritical, is that most Americans don't share your radical views on the rights of women. The majority of Americans believe that all women should have the right to decide whether or not to terminate their pregnancy. Not anyone else. And, especially not the government.
 

DreamRyderX

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Well, all arguments have been heard, & the Supreme Court Justices have asked all the questions they felt were important pertaining to the Mississippi Abortion issue.....

See you all when, & if, they come to any decision(s)....IMHO, somewhere between tomorrow, & June 2022......

In the mean time feel free to speculate on........Texas' 'Heartbeat' Abortion Law is still in force......saving lives......day after day.




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johnsmith

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Well, all arguments have been heard, & the Supreme Court Justices have asked all the questions they felt were important pertaining to the Mississippi Abortion issue.....

bullshit .. the supreme court is stacked. They knew how they were going to rule before even one iota of evidence was presented.

you've been conned
 
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