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HBS Guy

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When a mission goes wrong and the host country did not give permission things can get very sticky very quickly.
 

SethBullock

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The Islamic State’s Amaq News Agency has released a statement and shared a video claiming responsibility for the terrorist attack in Vienna, Austria yesterday (Nov. 2). At least four people were killed and more than 20 others wounded.


Amaq identified the gunman by a kunya, Abu Dujana al-Albani, and described him as a “soldier of the caliphate.” In the video, the terrorist is shown brandishing a handgun, rifle and machete as he professes his allegiance to Abu Ibrahim al-Hashimi al-Qurayshi, the current leader of the Islamic State. His oath is the same one that has been rehearsed in videos released by Amaq after terrorist attacks around the globe.


Authorities in Austria have identified the assailant as a 20-year-old named Kujtim Fejzulai. According to officials cited by the Associated Press, Fejzulai was convicted of terrorism-related charges in 2019 after he tried to join the Islamic State in Syria. He was sentenced to nearly two years in prison, but released early in Dec. 2019.


“The fact is that the terrorist managed to deceive the judicial system’s deradicalization program” to get out of prison, Austrian Interior Minister Karl Nehammer said, according to the Associated Press. Austrian authorities describe Fejzulai as an “Islamist terrorist.”


Early reporting indicated that the attack took place near a synagogue, but it was reportedly closed at the time of the assault. It is not clear what specific target Fejzulai had in mind. As has been the case in the past terrorist operations, he was reportedly wearing a “fake explosive vest” during his assault. Fejzulai likely intended to use the bogus bomb as a deterrent, but he was shot and killed by the police.


Fejzulai also reportedly posted the menacing images of himself on social media before his moment of terror.


The footage posted by Amaq is similar to previous videos, in which individuals or small cells swear allegiance to the Islamic State’s overall emir before striking. The group rarely provides details concerning its ties to the terrorists featured in the videos, but authorities have discovered digital connections, at a minimum, after a number of instances. [See FDD’s Long War Journal report, Analysis: The Islamic State’s allegiance videos.]


The shootings in Vienna came shortly after small-scale attacks were carried out in France. Those incidents were not claimed by the Islamic State. The would-be caliphate’s Khorasan arm did claim responsibility for an assault on Kabul University, killing at least 19 people and wounding others in the Afghan capital. That massacre also took place yesterday.

Thomas Joscelyn is a Senior Fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and the Senior Editor for FDD's Long War Journal.


 

DonDeeHippy

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The new acting defense secretary seems to be preparing for an accelerated withdrawal of US troops from the Middle East before Donald Trump’s term ends, according to Axios.


The news comes as acting defense secretary Christopher Miller has reportedly hired Ret. Army Col. Douglas Macgregor, a Trump loyalist, as a senior adviser.

Axios reports:


A senior administration official tells Axios that a wave of firings at the Pentagon and the hiring of Ret. Army Col. Douglas Macgregor is in part a settling of Trump’s personal scores — but senior White ....House officials also have made clear ‘they want them more publicly to talk about getting out of Afghanistan by the end of the year.’
Trump, who ran in 2016 on a promise to bring U.S. troops home, is frustrated with the slow pace of withdrawing troops from the Middle East, another senior administration official said.
The president has told advisers on numerous occasions that he wants troops home from Afghanistan by Christmas.
If Trump does this it will be his last good deed as president
 

SethBullock

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The new acting defense secretary seems to be preparing for an accelerated withdrawal of US troops from the Middle East before Donald Trump’s term ends, according to Axios.


The news comes as acting defense secretary Christopher Miller has reportedly hired Ret. Army Col. Douglas Macgregor, a Trump loyalist, as a senior adviser.

Axios reports:


If Trump does this it will be his last good deed as president
Interesting report. I wouldn't be surprised if he did it before he leaves office. We'll see.
 

Shellandshilo1956

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U.S.-Israeli Operation Killed Al Qaeda #2 Leader in Iran Last August


Fascinating report ...


So is our military at the disposal of the Israelis now? We are now their bitch. Just as we are with Saudi Arabia. I am NOT proud of being complicit to murder.
 

SethBullock

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So is our military at the disposal of the Israelis now? We are now their bitch. Just as we are with Saudi Arabia. I am NOT proud of being complicit to murder.
Al-Masri was wanted for the 1998 bombings of our embassies in Tanzania and Kenya that killed 224 and injured 4000 people. He was Al Qaeda's #2 in command. I think justice was served, just as it was for bin Laden himself. Furthermore, I commend our intelligence professionals and the Israelis for carrying out this successful operation.
 

Shellandshilo1956

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Al-Masri was wanted for the 1998 bombings of our embassies in Tanzania and Kenya that killed 224 and injured 4000 people. He was Al Qaeda's #2 in command. I think justice was served, just as it was for bin Laden himself. Furthermore, I commend our intelligence professionals and the Israelis for carrying out this successful operation.

So, you are saying that America is now the world's policeman. I simply don't believe that, as a country, we should be the judge, jury, and executioner, of anyone we label as a terrorist. This is a very dangerous slippery slope. We are a country of law, right?
 

Squire

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So, you are saying that America is now the world's policeman. I simply don't believe that, as a country, we should be the judge, jury, and executioner, of anyone we label as a terrorist. This is a very dangerous slippery slope. We are a country of law, right?
Nobody will ever know the truth because the Pentagon are proven liars and the CIA manufacture evidence to suit their objectives.

Every dead Muslim is a terrorist because they cannot deny Pentagon and CIA labeling them so.

It is not that long ago that the Pentagon was bombing weddings and funerals in Iraq and Afghanistan. Maybe they still are because the media is no longer watching.
 

Shellandshilo1956

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Nobody will ever know the truth because the Pentagon are proven liars and the CIA manufacture evidence to suit their objectives.

Every dead Muslim is a terrorist because they cannot deny Pentagon and CIA labeling them so.

It is not that long ago that the Pentagon was bombing weddings and funerals in Iraq and Afghanistan. Maybe they still are because the media is no longer watching.

This is so true. But the information is there. The problem is, that people are just intellectually lazy. They will believe anything that they government tells them, if the narrative is framed properly. Even when the government is caught flat out lying, the narrative will just shift to another lie, to maintain the same public outrage. From WMD to well he is still a murderous dictator!! From Assad gassing his own people, to he is still a brutal dictator. If people could see all the documents, they would see just how far the government will go, to protect the interests of the 1%. Does anyone care, why there are always more civilian casualties than military casualties? Why do you think progressive's are painted as socialists. So that people will ignore any truths that they can expose. Why do you think they threw everything at Tulsi?

People don't want to hear the inconvenient truth. They only want to hear the action-packed movie version of the truth.

America is a country where 52.6M people receive some form of welfare payment. Where 11.6M people are unemployed. Where 2.3M people are in jail. Where 34M people live below the poverty line. And, where 560K people are homeless. So what the fuck are we doing oversees? The only way our military influence in other countries will become positive, is if we leave!
 

DonDeeHippy

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There is also tension about the anniversary on 3 January of the US killing of Qassem Suleimani, the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps leader killed in a US drone strike in Iraq. Senior IRGC commanders this week repeated claims that Iran had not yet fully exacted revenge for his assassination.

Peace loving Trump.....
 

SethBullock

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So, you are saying that America is now the world's policeman. I simply don't believe that, as a country, we should be the judge, jury, and executioner, of anyone we label as a terrorist. This is a very dangerous slippery slope. We are a country of law, right?
No, I am not saying that. I see taking out the #2 AQ leader as an act of self defense. Al Qaeda may call off its war against the U.S. and seek peace with the western world any time it so chooses, but it has not done that. This was not a case of policing the world. This was a case of dealing with a terrorist who had harmed us, not someone else.

I find it interesting that AQ’s #2 was sheltering in Iran. AQ is a militant Sunni organization and they or others like them have murdered thousands of Shiites in Iraq, Syria, and Pakistan.
 

Squire

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No, I am not saying that. I see taking out the #2 AQ leader as an act of self defense. Al Qaeda may call off its war against the U.S. and seek peace with the western world any time it so chooses, but it has not done that. This was not a case of policing the world. This was a case of dealing with a terrorist who had harmed us, not someone else.

I find it interesting that AQ’s #2 was sheltering in Iran. AQ is a militant Sunni organization and they or others like them have murdered thousands of Shiites in Iraq, Syria, and Pakistan.
Let us not forget that Al Qaeda and Taliban leaders were once welcome in the USA.

Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda were a creation of the USA whose objective was to kill Russians and commit acts of terrorism in Afghanistan in the 1970s and 1980s.

Seth Bullock is so full of nonsense one day he will burst.

Let us also remember that Iran was once a peaceful democratic state until the USA and UK overthrew a democratically elected prime minister and imposed a despot the Shah of Iran.
 

SethBullock

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Let us not forget that Al Qaeda and Taliban leaders were once welcome in the USA.

Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda were a creation of the USA whose objective was to kill Russians and commit acts of terrorism in Afghanistan in the 1970s and 1980s.
And they showed their gratitude how?

Seth Bullock is so full of nonsense one day he will burst.
I guess it wouldn't be the internet without some scurrilous personal attack thrown in.

Let us also remember that Iran was once a peaceful democratic state until the USA and UK overthrew a democratically elected prime minister and imposed a despot the Shah of Iran.
And now, news from 1953 ....
 

Squire

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1. And they showed their gratitude how?

2. I guess it wouldn't be the internet without some scurrilous personal attack thrown in.

3. And now, news from 1953 ....
1. By killing Russians, Afghans, and miscellaneous foreigners who became collateral damage in acts of terrorism financed and armed by the USA.

2. The truth hurts for those who are allergic to it.

3. Dismissing acts of terrorism by the USA against democratic states as irrelevant.
 

Shellandshilo1956

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No, I am not saying that. I see taking out the #2 AQ leader as an act of self defense. Al Qaeda may call off its war against the U.S. and seek peace with the western world any time it so chooses, but it has not done that. This was not a case of policing the world. This was a case of dealing with a terrorist who had harmed us, not someone else.

I find it interesting that AQ’s #2 was sheltering in Iran. AQ is a militant Sunni organization and they or others like them have murdered thousands of Shiites in Iraq, Syria, and Pakistan.
Seth, this is NOT a one and a half hour action movie. We have been in Afghanistan for over 18 years, and have spent over 150 Billion dollars in this war effort. We have lost 2,372 soldiers, killed 16,179 civilians, have wounded 20,320 American servicemembers, and have lost 62,000 members of the Afghan national security forces. Even after all these deaths and injuries, 54% of the country is still controlled by the Taliban. But hey, we got the no. 2 man in Al Qaeda, right? Do you think that bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, or Soleimani, were given the choice of surrender peacefully? Or, is surrendering an option? They were all executed, without any due process.

Shall I talk about the stats in Iraq, or in other Middle Eastern, South/Central American, or African countries? Also, what has any of these labeled terrorists done to any citizen of the US(since 911)? Or, do we kill people for the crimes they have committed abroad? Sounds like being the world's policeman to me!!! Judge jury and executioner.
 
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