Renewable energy developments

DreamRyderX

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◆ ◆ ◆ How much of Australia's energy production has been efficiently replaced with Wind &/or Solar.....5%.....10%.....15% ......... How about the World? 5%....7% ??? Both are highly subsidized by the public (a government subsidy comes from the People's Pockets), & have been for many years.....The People are already highly invested, subsidizing Wind & Solar heavily, for such a minuscule up-take (low percentage of the total energy market nationally & going nowhere fast in total energy market share worldwide)......


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DreamRyderX

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Ok.......How many solar panels & wind turbines + batteries (square acreage) would you need to completely replace fossil fuel energy generation in just one city say in Sydney.....or Perth......or Melbourne......or Brisbane........or Darwin......etc......etc......(you choose) 24/7/365 when either the wind drops, when there are occasional overcast day(s), & the average temperature rises above 30 degrees, & everyone switches on their AC when they get home from work? Would your cheaper RE handle the load or collapse miserably, needing hours/days/weeks to get acceptably back on line?

Until RE can give you the same up-time as present day fossil fuel generation does..........cheaper pipe-dream "greenie" alternatives aint gunna cut it here in Australia, & never ever will....
......people won't accept inferior standards, & will flat out run yer tar & feathered greenie tail outa town if ya try ta sell 'em on such voodo!!
 
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HBS Guy

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Coal mines and coal fired generators have shut down as they cannot compete. Intermittent requires storage like pumped hydro and I don’t mind nuclear in the mix. It is important to stop increasing carbon emissions.
 

MilesAway

Bongalong
Ok.......How many solar panels & wind turbines + batteries (square acreage) would you need to completely replace fossil fuel energy generation in Sydney.....or Perth......or Melbourne......or Brisbane........or Darwin 24/7/365 when either the wind drops, when there are occasional overcast day(s), & the average temperature rises above 30 degrees, & everyone switches on their AC when they get home from work? Would your cheaper RE handle the load or collapse miserably, needing hours/days to get back on line?

Until RE can give you the same up-time as present day fossil fuel generation does..........cheaper alternatives aint gunna cut it & never will....
......people won't accept inferior standards, & will flat out run yer tar & feathered greenie tail outa town!!
Ever heard of co-generation?
 

DreamRyderX

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Ever heard of co-generation?
So, admittedly then, Fossil fuel will be here to stay as the main source of stable & superior energy production. Anyone dreamin'/sayin' otherwise is out there in LaLaLand until otherwise becomes a proven fact.

IMHO.....Nuclear is the only valid & feasible alternative to fossil fuel generated power plants
 
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MilesAway

Bongalong
So, admittedly then, Fossil fuel will be here to stay as the main source of stable & superior energy production. Anyone dreamin'/sayin' otherwise is out there in LaLaLand until otherwise becomes a proven fact.
Nobody with a brain ever said fossil fuels had to disappear! The complex has been subsidising fossil fuels for a century ever since air superiority became the aim of any serious country.

You can come on here and say Americans believe in guns all you want and I understand that but as soon as you forget that the need for air superiority meant fossil fuels were supported by a whole complex then I deny you all credibility.
 

DreamRyderX

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Nobody with a brain ever said fossil fuels had to disappear! The complex has been subsidising fossil fuels for a century ever since air superiority became the aim of any serious country.

You can come on here and say Americans believe in guns all you want and I understand that but as soon as you forget that the need for air superiority meant fossil fuels were supported by a whole complex then I deny you all credibility.
If by air superiority = you mean clean, breathable air................if so, I wholeheartedly 100% agree. Coal fired Power Plants fitted with Air Scrubbers, expensive yes, but with today's technology, are acceptably clean, if you can see past the initial cost.
 
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MilesAway

Bongalong
So, admittedly then, Fossil fuel will be here to stay as the main source of stable & superior energy production. Anyone dreamin'/sayin' otherwise is out there in LaLaLand until otherwise becomes a proven fact.

IMHO.....Nuclear is the only valid & feasible alternative to fossil fuel generated power plants
Nuclear power is only needed for metropolises addicted to consumerism and submarine games!
 

MilesAway

Bongalong
Question: if I lived in a world that made everyone else's t shirts and basketball shoes would I ever be be allowed enough time off to waste my life in hotels?
 

HBS Guy

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The U.S. energy storage industry smashed its quarterly installation record with an influx of major projects in the third quarter.

The industry had just broken records in the second quarter, but it beat that period's performance by 240 percent, installing 476 megawatts, according to the Energy Storage Monitor out Wednesday from Wood Mackenzie and the Energy Storage Association.

The growth came in spite of the coronavirus fallout, which slammed the broader economy and conventional energy companies in particular. But this did not stop a growing number of states from deciding that the ability to store electricity and release it on demand will be central to maintaining their grid networks amid the rise of renewable power plants.

More significantly, this quarterly record does not look like an outlier. Annual deployments are expected to more than double in 2020 overall and nearly triple in 2021, according to Wood Mackenzie's analysis. The U.S. market is expected to reach 7.5 gigawatts in 2025, which amounts to sixfold growth from 2020.
https://www.greentechmedia.com/arti...=email&utm_source=Daily&utm_campaign=GTMDaily
 

DonDeeHippy

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I think energy storage will keep expanding faster than projections as it gets cheaper, better and more readily available.
Just in the last month Australia has approved 3 new huge battery projects. 2 of them bigger than the south Australia one.
 

HBS Guy

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Nothing like a big battery for smoothing the output of windfarms, saving consumers money and nothing like a battery for keeping the grid going when a coal fired generator crashes off line which they tend to do in hot weather.

SA needs big solar to supplement wind—plenty of suitable deserts and salt lakes. an area 20Km by 20Km will do the job. Panels say half a metre above water level when the dam is full would not displace any land, reduce evaporation from the reservoir and generate power close to a capital city. There is a ginormous dam in Queensland would be excellent!
 

DonDeeHippy

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If he does just this one thing he is already a better president than Trump
 

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