Renewable energy developments

DonDeeHippy

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Are some Liberal Ministers finally seeing the Light ???

 

HBS Guy

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Yeah, who doesn’t like cheaper electricity?

But we can do more! Solar over reservoirs displaces no agriculture and reduces evaporative losses and are close to capital cities, win win!

Lots of north and west facing ridges in the lower and mid north here in SA that are too steep/rocky even for sheep. Be nice to put solar cells there—but they would blind motorists driving past—we need a matte solar panel! Maybe fibreoptics?
 

DonDeeHippy

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Yeah, who doesn’t like cheaper electricity?

But we can do more! Solar over reservoirs displaces no agriculture and reduces evaporative losses and are close to capital cities, win win!

Lots of north and west facing ridges in the lower and mid north here in SA that are too steep/rocky even for sheep. Be nice to put solar cells there—but they would blind motorists driving past—we need a matte solar panel! Maybe fibreoptics?
also solar panels about 3-4 meters in the air over farmland are proving better yields from the shade and the added benefit of power....
 

HBS Guy

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Yes, farmers cut down too many trees and you can see herds of cows trying to cram into the one bit of shade. If the panels provide more shade while allowing grass to grow that is indeed a bonus.
 

DonDeeHippy

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Tesla CEO Elon Musk on Megapack pricing (a jaw-dropping ~$200/kWh for the core battery tech and ~$300/kWh all-in cost),

This is huge, $416,000 AUD dollars for a megawatt hour of battery packs is incredible, prices so far has been at least $1,000,000 or more... For a better idea 1GWH of pumped hydro storage will cost 2.5 to 5 billion, now with Tesla it will cost 416 million for the same storage......
Give it 2 or 3 years when Tesla in house battery tech comes into play and the core battery tech should half again (Teslas new battery will be 54% less than the ones they buy now) which will be about 218 million AUD for a gwh......

Now we just wait for enough Battery factories and even lower prices.....
 

Chuck

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Tesla CEO Elon Musk on Megapack pricing (a jaw-dropping ~$200/kWh for the core battery tech and ~$300/kWh all-in cost),

This is huge, $416,000 AUD dollars for a megawatt hour of battery packs is incredible, prices so far has been at least $1,000,000 or more... For a better idea 1GWH of pumped hydro storage will cost 2.5 to 5 billion, now with Tesla it will cost 416 million for the same storage......
Give it 2 or 3 years when Tesla in house battery tech comes into play and the core battery tech should half again (Teslas new battery will be 54% less than the ones they buy now) which will be about 218 million AUD for a gwh......

Now we just wait for enough Battery factories and even lower prices.....
Musk is polluting space instead off earth!
 

Chuck

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you can't breath the 'air' in space anyway:rainumbrella
Never disputed that....many times what we perceive as a solution ends up being a pollutant in the future.

Like on earth face mask have become a problem recently and for decades, disposable nappies have been an issue at rubbish tips with fecal matter getting into the waterway.

Musk is flooding space with small satellites for the internet and endangering other research work!
 

DonDeeHippy

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Never disputed that....many times what we perceive as a solution ends up being a pollutant in the future.

Like on earth face mask have become a problem recently and for decades, disposable nappies have been an issue at rubbish tips with fecal matter getting into the waterway.

Musk is flooding space with small satellites for the internet and endangering other research work!
how is he endangering other research work ?
 

DonDeeHippy

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SpaceX has successfully orbited another batch of 60 Starlink satellites, landed the Falcon 9 booster that launched it, and caught both halves of the rocket’s payload fairing.
Starlink-13 is now the second time ever that SpaceX has simultaneously recovered a Falcon 9 booster and caught both fairing halves on the same mission, coming just shy of three months after the first success

For Starlink-13, the use – and successful recovery – of a five-flight booster and two-flight fairing likely means that the marginal cost of the mission to SpaceX was little more than the cost of propellant (< $500k) and Falcon 9’s expendable upper stage (~$10M), equivalent to an almost inconceivable ~$700 per kilogram of actual Starlink satellites launched. Assuming each Starlink satellite costs approximately $250k, it’s easy to believe that SpaceX is regularly launching 60 high-performance communications satellites for an all-in cost of just $25M-30M.

Real news of whats happening......

so that around $700,000 AUD per satellite delivered Amazing....Just so you know each Satellite has it's own propulsion as well to maneuver....
As a cost comparison the 2 NBN satellites cost 2 billion dollars....
 
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DonDeeHippy

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His rocket seems to be bloody good!
yup and like everything with Elon getting better, wait until they start making the big stainless steel ones, they are huge....they have done a bit of testing so far I suppose they will be operational next year...Look like something out of a 50's sci fi movie

Also his rockets have now surpassed the space shuttle on reusable Launches...

 

johnsmith

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I think ford is more a hero of musk.... Tesla brand name was picked before he came along.... Ironic thing is a EV is DC.....
I compared him to Nicola tesla because both men changed the world for ever. Henry Ford just introduced a production line. I don't think he's even in the same league.
 

DonDeeHippy

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I compared him to Nicola tesla because both men changed the world for ever. Henry Ford just introduced a production line. I don't think he's even in the same league.
You need to read more about Henry Ford....
he brought cars into the world and took over horses...
musk is doing the same thing with Electric Vehicals over internal combustion cars
He pretty well invented the production line and Musk loves increasing production, he is also chasing ford's timeline of 0 to 500,000 units per year in 10 years and is just on track.....(about 330,000 this year with 1 quarter to go, covid might break him though)
Henry also bought back the company after going public ,something Musk hasn't been able to do with Tesla but was successful with Space X.
Elon isn't a inventor but a innovator...He loves first principle, basically just because something is built a certain way doesn't make it right. Go back to the beginning and try again..
Tesla for all his brilliance and creation was never able to translate that to success. Died poor and unknown....
Musk most prized possession is a Model T ford.....(the very first mass produced item ever made)

What makes Musk different to both Ford and Tesla is he want's to make the world a better place and has a definite goal in mind and doing everything he can to get to it....It's not often you see a idealistic person successful...
I think he is closest to Gandhi.. If Gandhi had put his efforts into making the world better by making thing's then you would of had Musk... Even the offbeat humor is very much like the old guru...also he is not perfect, just like Gandhi .
When 1 person really puts their mind to making the world better it's amazing what can happen....
 
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johnsmith

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he brought cars into the world and took over horses
no, cars were here long before Henry Ford. All Ford did was work out mass production via the production line. Something that I think would have happened anyway


Elon isn't a inventor but a innovator...He loves first principle, basically just because something is built a certain way doesn't make it right. Go back to the beginning and try again..
Tesla for all his brilliance and creation was never able to translate that to success. Died poor and unknown....
Musk most prized possession is a Model T ford.....(the very first mass produced item ever made)
Telsa was never a salesman.
 
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