Renewable energy developments


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I doubt much will come of it. Manganese nodules were mined in the waters to our north—but that is continental shelf not deep ocean waters (this is all from the late 1960s, I may (likely) have misremembered something.)
Hopefully not much will come of it!
When companies see opportunities, perseverance and badgering of govt. officials will achieve their desired outcome.
Lol, you mean like "Lobbying"? Where the Fu do they do that shifty Chucky? 😅


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Currently, it appears that they’re making inroads with their lobbying, as the UN is/has drafted controls and regulations.

You cannot assume that all EV manufacturers will abide by not sourcing batteries made from minerals scoured from the oceans.

There are other markets besides EV!


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Global oil prices have slumped further after the world’s energy watchdog warned that the biggest production cuts in history will fail to offset the deepest fall in demand in 25 years.
Data commissioned by the Guardian this month shows that the coronavirus is likely to cut billions of barrels of oil, trillions of cubic metres of gas and millions of tonnes of coal from the global energy system and erase 2.5bn tonnes of carbon dioxide emissions from the fossil fuel industry.
This would be the biggest drop in CO2 emissions on record, in a single year eclipsing the carbon slumps triggered by the largest recessions of the last 50 years combined.
The IEA’s findings underline fears among oil traders that the deal hammered out between Opec and its allies over the Easter weekend would prove “too little, too late” to prevent further oil price falls.
The plunging oil market price has forced oil rigs producing more than a million barrels a day to shut and wiped billions from the market value of the world’s biggest oil companies.

US oil prices turned negative for the first time on record on Monday as North America’s oil producers run out of space to store an unprecedented oversupply of crude left by the coronavirus crisis.
The price of US crude oil collapsed by more than 105% to -$2 per barrel in a matter of hours, forcing oil producers to pay buyers to take the glut of crude which they cannot store, as rising stockpiles of crude threaten to overwhelm oil storage facilities.
The crash in demand caused by the Covid-19 pandemic also forced Canada’s benchmark oil price to plunge into negative territory for the first time on Monday.

The proof is there, pollution is disappearing out of our skies. The sooner we get stop Burning fossil fuels for heat and energy the better our land and bodies will be... :purple


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Isn't it curious that the two Australian states with the most ambitious renewable energy policies - Tasmania and South Australia - have Liberal governments, and no coal industry :purple


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Trump's ploy to boost the U.S. steel industry with tariffs has failed, U.S. steel now sells for less than before Trump took office. Trump's ploy to boost the U.S. manufacturing industry has failed, his tariffs drove up the cost of imported electronic components used in products assembled in the U.S.. Trump's ploy to boost the U.S. coal industry has failed, and now his ploy to boost the U.S. oil industry is backfiring. Everything Trump touches, he makes worst. Ironically, Trump's meddling has done more damage to U.S. fossil fuel industries than any green-initiatives the Democrats have ever introduced. :bike


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Isn't it curious that the two Australian states with the most ambitious renewable energy policies - Tasmania and South Australia - have Liberal governments, and no coal industry :purple

no. labor set up SA. The libs simply kept doing what labor started. Don't know much about tassie but wouldn't be surprised to find the same there

I guess it was good of them to not do an abbott and destroy policies already implemented just for the sake of it


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There are windfarms being set up in Tassie, will supply the other states via Basslink. Good idea as Tassie dries out like WA/SA/Vic/NSW hydro will struggle.


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Energy operator wants to remotely switch off rooftop solar systems amid 'uncontrolled growth'

Australia's electricity grid operator wants the power to remotely switch off or constrain the output of new rooftop solar systems, as it finds ways to manage South Australia's world-leading levels of "invisible and uncontrolled" solar output.

The recommendation is contained in a new report by the Australian Energy Market Operator, which sets out how it will manage the grid up to 2025.

At times, as much as 75 per cent of Australia's energy is forecast to be provided by wind and solar.

The report shows at certain points last year, 64 per cent of South Australia's power demand was met by rooftop solar alone.

AEMO's forecasts show that figure could grow as high 85 per cent by 2025, with rooftop solar also tipped to dominate supply at times in in Victoria (up to 66 per cent), Queensland (57 per cent) and New South Wales (48 per cent).

But the runaway success of solar power poses serious challenges for the security of the grid, because it operates "behind-the-meter", out of control of the authorities.

To manage the growth, AEMO is looking to impose requirements on new solar systems in South Australia to enable "generation-shedding capabilities" as soon as possible.

Other states and territories will be encouraged to adopt a similar approach.

While the use of batteries might help the market operator avoid powering down household rooftop systems, it describes the ability to remotely control panels as an essential "back-stop".

AEMO's managing director Audrey Ziebelman says the study makes clear that the current approaches used to manage the electricity market are becoming less effective as the grid continues its transformation to world-leading levels of renewable generation.

"Australia already has the technical capability to safely operate a power system where three quarters of our energy at times comes from wind and solar energy generation," Ms Ziebelman said.

"However, to do so requires changes in our markets and regulatory requirements, otherwise, AEMO will be required to limit the contribution of these wind and solar resources to 50 or 60 per cent of electricity supply at any point in time, even though they are the lowest cost way of providing electricity."

I hope the govt. tells them to fuck off.


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“The report shows at certain points last year, 64 per cent of South Australia's power demand was met by rooftop solar alone.”

That is amazing!

AEMO needs to move with the times! How about shutting an old coal fired generator? Be bloody nice to be off-grid! Panels, windmills, battery. Cooking with gas, reticulated or big gas bottle, firewood to heat the house. There is a book: “Toward a Zero Energy Home: A Complete Guide to Energy Self-Sufficiency at Home by DAVID GIBSON, SCOTT - JOHNSTON” that sounds interesting.

Maybe we should set up a subforum: Energy self sufficiency of the home? Be distinct from EVs and utility scale RE plants.


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How about a sticky thread here like in OZpol…. can we do that ?

Better Home self sufficiency

that would include renewables, permaculture, efficiencies.. etc...
my title name sort of suck, need a better one. :purple


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Australian company H2X to manufacture hydrogen vehicles in NSW
Hydrogen vehicles are set to be manufactured in the New South Wales Illawarra region, with Australian company H2X aiming to produce 20,000 hybrid vehicles from a plant at Port Kembla by 2025.

The company's CEO Brendan Norman said the venture would create about 5,000 direct jobs, mostly based in the Illawarra.

"From July onward we'll be starting to hire people and put people to work on different parts of the project," Mr Norman said.

"We're looking to going into aggressive production from 2022, but we will have a start in production from 2021.
"We'll predominantly use hydrogen as the main energy storage but will also make sure we take advantage of the best way to use power from battery sources."

Tractors and taxis
Mr Norman said the company had already developed several prototypes of hybrid cars and agricultural machinery with a view to producing passenger vehicles in the future.

"We're also looking at heavy vehicles and vehicles that will come from one location and then go back to the same location in the same day," he said.

There are some farming vehicles that we're looking at, vehicles like taxis and delivery vans also operate in that sort of focus.

"The key that we have to unlock with passenger vehicles is to make sure that there's enough hydrogen available around the cities."
Export opportunities
Mr Norman said Port Kembla was a desirable location for a factory due to its access to the port and existing hydrogen projects being explored in the region.

"We have a partner space which we can start in, which is enough for us in terms of the volumes and the work we have to do on the prototypes," he said.

"But we will be moving into a larger facility, which is something we'll be developing and working on the feasibility for over the coming months."

Mr Norman said he was confident the company could be successful, despite the collapse of Holden.

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"At the moment we're focused on [if] the regulatory environment is going to be safe for us to do what we're trying to do," he said.

"We haven't directly asked for support from government because one of the things we are looking at is making sure this can be an internationally competitive business.
"Those supports won't support us anywhere as soon as we start going overseas, but making sure that environment to do business on an international level is there — that is something we need help with."

Great news for Wollongong.


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That moron YouLiar will be creaming its jeans at the news, doubt hydrogen has a role long term except in certain applications—cost, difficulty of storage etc.


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The big Tesla battery going in at Jamestown in SA will also provide opportunities for SA business, especially car parts makers making stuff for Tesla energy. Hope can make stuff for Tesla’s electric cars, that’d be wild!
Have u considered the difference between the environment of SA and Tamil Nadu?

From my travel experience of travelling through Southern India I would consider this being a poor result from an environmental point of view.
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New report shows up to 90% of power in AUstralia can be supplied by renewables.

Renewables could power most of Australia by 2040, Australian Energy Market Operator plan shows
There could be periods where the nation's homes and businesses are powered almost entirely by renewables, under a plan put forward by the Australian Energy Market Operator (AEMO).
AEMO has released its two-decade outlook for the way Australia can generate the cheapest and most reliable electricity.

By 2040, AEMO is projecting that two thirds of coal-fired power generation is likely to be retired.

That opens the way for a 200 per cent increase in household solar and batteries and increased reliance on grid-scale solar and wind, along with pumped hydro.

It says that by 2035 there may be periods where nearly 90 per cent of demand is met by renewable generation.

On top of that, the report forecasts a possible saving of $11 billion in net market benefits over the next 20 years.

Gas could play a larger role, according to the report, but only if the prices remained low at between $4 and $6 per gigajoule.

Currently the rolling 30-day average price of gas per GJ is just under $4.

The report, known as the Integrated Systems Plan (ISP), focuses on ways to make strategic investments in transmission infrastructure and renewable energy zones, combined with low-cost firming resources like batteries and generators that prolong the energy from intermittent sources like wind and solar.

"The ISP modelling confirms that the least-cost and least-regret transition … is from a system dominated by centralised coal-fired generation to a highly diverse portfolio," it said.

Industry body Energy Networks Australia described the changes to the way the nation will use and generate electricity as "seismic" and stressed they will need to be carefully managed.

Green groups including the Australian Conservation Foundation (ACF) have seized on the document as proof the coal industry is withering and new gas projects are not required, because the cost will be too high.

"This forecast supports the case, being made by ACF and many others, for a clean economic recovery rather than backing the jobs-poor and polluting energy sources of the past," said Gavan McFadzean, the ACF climate and energy manager.

Greenpeace Australia also said the report should trigger a rethink of the Federal Government's support for gas investment.

"Gas is a polluting fossil fuel responsible for driving climate change," Greenpeace Australia Pacific campaigner Elizabeth Sullivan said.

"Further investment in gas only serves to lock in greenhouse gas emissions, increasing extreme weather events like this past bushfire season."

A statement on behalf of Federal Energy Minister Angus Taylor said the Government was backing new generation, transmission, and storage projects.

But the Minister cautioned that any investments in the grid must "make economic sense" to avoid gold plating the network and increasing power bills.

According to the statement, the Government will continue to support gas generation.

"The Government also strongly believes gas will play an important role in balancing the [national energy market] and complement the record levels of renewable energy generation entering the market," it said.

Now all we need is a government that isn't in the back pocket of the mining industry


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'World's largest solar farm' near tiny NT town could help power Singapore via 4,500km undersea cable
An undersea cable from a planned major solar farm project in the Top End could supply Singapore with sustainable electricity by 2027.

The project has won major project status this week from the Federal Government, which will help smooth the approval process for the $22 billion Australian ASEAN Power Link using high-volume direct current (HVDC) technology.

The company developing the project, Sun Cable, says it will be the world's biggest solar farm and visible from space when it is built near the town of Elliott, halfway between Darwin and Alice Springs.

The electricity would flow 750 kilometres to a solar battery in Darwin, then run by submarine cable 4,500km to Singapore, supplying 20 per cent of the city-state's energy demand, with plans to continue on to Indonesia.

Chief executive David Griffin is visiting the Top End and awarded a tender for undersea survey work to the Guardian Geomatics survey ship which will produce a map of the undersea topography by May next year.

"This is the largest solar farm under development in the world, it's also the largest battery anywhere in the world, it's about 300 times larger than the largest battery at the moment. It's a very significant project," he said.

A final investment decision on the project is still yet to be made and approvals have to be secured.

Mr Griffin welcomed the Federal Government's granting of major project status, which the NT Government also gave the project in late 2019.

"It's really about the recognition that this is an extremely important strategic project for Australia," he said.
More reliable power for Territorians
The solar array would feed electricity 750km to Darwin, where the battery would be built at Middle Arm on Darwin Harbour, stabilising the city's unreliable power supply.

"In the event of a disaster, a blackout, we can restart the entire system extremely quickly, all the way to making sure that doesn't happen in the first place," Mr Griffin said.

But he said a Darwin-based factory building pre-fabricated Maverick solar panels for Sun Cable could also be used to transform remote Indigenous communities that rely on polluting diesel generators for much of their power.

"It's extremely expensive to be running on diesel, and we can be providing electricity to those communities on a far more cost-effective basis than they are now," Mr Griffin said.

The company said the project was expected to provide 1,500 construction jobs and 12,000 indirect jobs during constriction, with 350 long-term operational jobs spread between the solar farm site at Elliott and Darwin.

Mr Griffin said a previous powerline project proposed from Mount Isa to Darwin in 2005 fell over because of the use of alternating current (AC).

"We're transmitting in direct current (DC), and that's one of the key advantages of it, you can actually do it over extremely long distances," he said.

"You don't have those losses you suffer under an alternating current transmission system, that’s what's made this project feasible now, is the development of the direct current submarine cable technology."

More than one cable would run to Singapore, each roughly 30 centimetres in diameter.

The main benefit for the NT would come from lower power prices, enabling other power-hungry industries to move north.

"Electricity is such a massive portion of their economic case, that it's very difficult to do that while electricity prices stay high," Mr Griffin said.
"We drive down prices, we actually bring new industries into the NT, and it drives economic growth that way."

Construction is expected to start in late 2023, with solar energy to reach Darwin in 2026 and Singapore the following year.

This thing is going to be HUGE


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This may be a lousy time for the airline industry, but it is the perfect time for Australia’s Melbourne Airport to look to the future. The largest behind-the-meter solar farm in Australia is under construction at the airport and is expected to be completed by the end of September. When it begins operating in January of next year, the 12.4-megawatt facility is expected to produce 17 gigawatt-hours of electricity annually — enough to power all four passenger terminals.

So many good things happening in AUstralia, just a shame we are run by a bunch of people that are in the Fossil Fuel pocket. The Libs and Labor need a shake up and shake down.... Might have to put my hand up to replace littleproud :group hug