Deliberate lies in political advertising

johnsmith

Moderator
Staff member
For those of you from Mexico and ablivious to whats happening in gods country, Qld is heading for an election at the end of the Month.

For days now, I've been listening to the fat fuckers (clive Palmer) wife on the radio going on about labors plans to introduce a death tax.
This is an outright lie. There are no policy plans for a death tax, there has been nothing even remotely similar announced and in fact labor had vehemently denied any suck plans.

Labor has apprently complained to social media to stop these ads, but why are they still played on the radio?



https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10...lains-says-uap-death-tax-claim-a-lie/12774238


Surely deliberate lies should be banned in ALL political advertising?
 

pinkeye

Wonder woman
Haven't you noticed all the other shit too.?

The rules are now written by people like Trump, and Morrison.. Media is their business,, NOT GOVERNMENT. At that they are both frankly , disasters.

Seems no rules apply.. YOU would personally need to lodge an objection to .. wherever to get any response at all.
 

pinkeye

Wonder woman
And look at Gladys.! She is using media to try to advertise her innocence.. That is also deliberate lies in political advertising.. it's just not paid for.
 

DonDeeHippy

Active member
We would all love to ban all false political advertising. Trouble is, who is going to decide?
Get a top judge to do it, give them a team to fact check and the judge makes a quick decision on what is or not allowed.....Judges decision is final then the candadates just need to submit new submissions...
 

SethBullock

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Get a top judge to do it, give them a team to fact check and the judge makes a quick decision on what is or not allowed.....Judges decision is final then the candadates just need to submit new submissions...
Then we would have “the government” deciding. And we would be injecting the judiciary directly into power politics. Judges need to stay above all that.
 

SethBullock

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Staff member
With every decision they made, they would be slimed by the side that lost. They would be dragged through the mud mercilessly, calling their impartiality into question.

This isn’t their role.

What if an informed electorate decided for themselves?

Are we really such sheep that we need a government official telling us what to believe?
 

DonDeeHippy

Active member
With every decision they made, they would be slimed by the side that lost. They would be dragged through the mud mercilessly, calling their impartiality into question.

This isn’t their role.

What if an informed electorate decided for themselves?

Are we really such sheep that we need a government official telling us what to believe?
I don't see how, if election promises and smear tactics where reviewed before they where made public and either allowed or refused and why. With a chance to review them, then what would be the problem...The judge could even be anonymous and random each day.....

There has to be some way to bring politicians and political parties into line on lying and false accusations....
 

SethBullock

Moderator
Staff member
I don't see how, if election promises and smear tactics where reviewed before they where made public and either allowed or refused and why. With a chance to review them, then what would be the problem...The judge could even be anonymous and random each day.....

There has to be some way to bring politicians and political parties into line on lying and false accusations....
A quick execution on the first offense might work.
 

johnsmith

Moderator
Staff member
We would all love to ban all false political advertising. Trouble is, who is going to decide?
FYI Seth, Clive Palmer is out fat version of trump ... an entitled billionaire who thinks the world owes him ... except clive hasn't half of trumps charisma

I hear that in the UK political advertising is banned except for a week or two before the election ... it doesn't seem to have hampered their efforts. These days if you want to know someones policies you google it. You certainly don't listen to the radio for it.

Almost all political advertising is deceptive. It’s just a matter of degree. Judges would be besieged with complaints every election season.
there is a huge difference between misrepresenting an actual policy, and making crap up
 

SethBullock

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Staff member
FYI Seth, Clive Palmer is out fat version of trump ... an entitled billionaire who thinks the world owes him ... except clive hasn't half of trumps charisma

I hear that in the UK political advertising is banned except for a week or two before the election ... it doesn't seem to have hampered their efforts. These days if you want to know someones policies you google it. You certainly don't listen to the radio for it.


there is a huge difference between misrepresenting an actual policy, and making crap up
Yeah, but our freedom of speech is unequivocal, so what the UK does is not possible in the U.S.

What I would like to see is a Supreme Court decision that decides that donating money is not protected under the right of free speech. If that decision became the law of the land, we could limit campaign donations. In my humble opinion, no one, and no group, should be able to donate more than $100 to political candidates or their party.

Let them use the media and the internet to get their messages out.
 
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