Covid-19 Revisit
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Stupid government agencies—I had to fill out the same fucking forms as I did the first time. Computers are great at storing and retrieving info—they could have preprinted forms with our details leaving me to fill in just the crap about how we felt healthwise. HATE filling out forms with info already in the system!
My 51 year old cousin is recovering from a moderate case of covid. Her fever of 40C was barely manageable for several days and she almost went to the hospital. She was fully vaccinated in January with the other health care workers. She is the picture of health, lives in the gym, and looks better than most 20 year olds.
I'm 3 years older, moderately overweight and unvaccinated, yet I had much less trouble with covid. My opinion is that the vaccinations are useless at best and give a false sense of security. Almost all of us will get this disease eventually. Protect your vulnerable and live your lives. If you want the jab, take it with my blessings.
I'm 3 years older, moderately overweight and unvaccinated, yet I had much less trouble with covid. My opinion is that the vaccinations are useless at best and give a false sense of security. Almost all of us will get this disease eventually. Protect your vulnerable and live your lives. If you want the jab, take it with my blessings.
Shellandshilo1956
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What the fuck does that mean?? Did I NOT read something posted? What was it that I didn't read correctly? Or, are you just implying that I have?? And, if my constant attempts of asking people to back up their beliefs is just verbal diarrhea to you, then don't read them! And, don't respond to them with empty insinuations and implications.
I promise that I won't be offended.
Shellandshilo1956
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Prove it! Prove that these unvaccinated people died because they were unvaccinated? Explain WHY unvaccinated people recover at the same rate as vaccinated people? It makes zero difference if a person is vaccinated or not. Both can be infected. Both have the same B-Cell antibodies to fight the same pathogen. The only thing that is relevant is how robust is the immune system. That is all that matters!
All any vaccine does, is to alert our immune system of a pathogen early. So that it can respond sooner when the pathogens enters your body. THAT IS IT, NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS!! It doesn't prevent you from getting the disease, or from dying from the disease. The mortality rate of Covid-19 has always been between 1-2%, since the beginning of last year. Months before vaccines were even thought of. Tens of thousands recovered naturally in Australia(millions in the US). So what does this tell us.
That it is our immune system alone, that decides whether we live or die from any pathogen. NOT WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE VACCINATED! If your immune system is compromised by other illnesses, already fighting a chronic illness, or is weaken from age or drug treatments, then you can have a hundred vaccines, and you will still die!
But hey, we know that the majority of those dead were unvaccinated? And, that's it?? Wow!!! Sit, Stay. Good boy!
Shellandshilo1956
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So you think that we should be artificially tailoring a perfectly normal immune system, that is already hardwired by evolution, to fight any pathogen or any of their variants? You want to force everyone to compromise their own immune system, by inducing the immune system to start producing vaccine-induced and pathogen-specific antibodies?
Do you think that if we should vaccinate ourselves, from 219 species of viruses that can infect humans? Including all of their variants? How about all of the 5 million trillion trillion bacteria? Even if we could inject ourselves with every virus and bacteria known to man, we would still not be safe from ALL viruses and bacteria. Clearly you don't know how immune system works. Nature needs no help! If fact, eventually the immune system will offer Zero protection from ANY viruses or bacteria. Just leave it alone.
Shellandshilo1956
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Do you want me to show you the stats on the number of unvaccinated people over 70(or even 90) who have survived Covid-19? Even in these age ranges, the vast majority WILL RECOVER!!! I'd have to redo the math, but I think it was round 80%. So NO everyone over 70 does NOT have hardly any immune system left. This is exactly what disinformation causes.
So does all of our natural antibodies. But these antibodies are low affinity and broad spectrum antibodies. These antibodies will respond to ANY pathogen. Or ANY of their variants. This system will also respond to drugs, infections(bacteria), toxins, chemicals, or even foreign particles(splinters). It recognizes, searches, and destroys not only these inorganic substances, but also any substance that contains antigens(viruses).
Just leave this system alone! If people have been convinced by the government advertisers, that this is another product that they need, then that is their business. But the facts convince me otherwise. So don't force or shame me into doing something that is clearly unnecessary and potentially harmful to me. Let me make my own choices!
Then take the jab if you want. I'm not stopping you or questioning your judgment. I'm 54 and have a very healthy immune system.
LOTS of people over 65 think they have this huge, robust immune system. I fact, the immune system starts breaking down when you reach 65 years of age. One clown boasting of his superb immune system refused to believe it starts breaking down in your mid 60s. Probably because he is no longer working he doesn’t get colds and flu, that is not because of a super immune system.
People believe what they want to believe. Some believe a 10th planet has invaded the solar system. . .{sigh} others in defiance of history believe a Grand Solar Minimum brings on an ice age despite the LIA preceding the Maunder by 300 years. Yet others believe they have a SUPER immune system.
Stats show more of the unvaxxed die from COVID19 than the unvaxxed.
People believe what they want to believe. Some believe a 10th planet has invaded the solar system. . .{sigh} others in defiance of history believe a Grand Solar Minimum brings on an ice age despite the LIA preceding the Maunder by 300 years. Yet others believe they have a SUPER immune system.
Stats show more of the unvaxxed die from COVID19 than the unvaxxed.
My son was forced to get his jab today or face a dishonorable discharge from the military and he just got off of quarantine from having covid 4 days ago. Are they any better? What makes them so special? Current US law dictates that they be shipped back to Haiti immediately. Biden's teleprompter ignores the law. This is an invasion and I won't protest when somebody treats this like an invasion and fights back.
This has become personal and I'm pissed.
Shellandshilo1956
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Just got back from the march today. I have never been more proud of Australians, than those thousands of true Aussies who joined me. As time goes by, and our economy and lives are being destroyed, there will be even larger groups trying to get our freedoms back. Our businesses are closing down. Our borders continue to be restricted. Our freedoms and privacies continue to be suspended. Our choice, to NOT allow healthy muscle cells to start producing spikes, will soon be ignored by this government. Australians are now dobbing on other Australians who disobey any of the medical protocols. All because 21 people in Queensland are still infected with Covid-19? A disease that is less lethal than the measles? And slightly more lethal than the common flu/cold. This is insanity!!
The only thing more amazing than the government's media stooges spreading disinformation, half-truth and omissions, is the gullibility, apathy, and ignorance of the people who listen and defend them.
Fortunately thousands of Australians are NOT still attached to the government's umbilical cord. These are the people who realize that there are glaring and obvious contradictions in the government's bullshit.
Why would anyone who has recovered from Covid-19 need to be vaccinated for the same virus? Their antibodies will even attack the viral variants. Unlike these vaccine induced antibodies.
Why would anyone wear a mask who is NOT even infected? The only logical answer is, that they are protecting themselves from those who do have the disease. The dumbest answer would be, that they don't want to infect others with a disease that they don't even have!
Why are we fear-mongering, and demonizing a virus, that has a survival rate of over 97%?
Why are we fining and arresting people for not keeping 2 meters apart, when this is impossible and ineffective?
What is the strategy for the government's agenda? Does the government plan on holding our freedoms and the economy to ransom? Unless everyone does what they are told? Are we now being treated like children, or sheep?
Why can't people just THINK ABOUT WHAT IS BALATANTLY OBVIOUS? Humans cannot fight against a freak'n virus. Humans WILL continue to be infected by cold and flu viruses. Viruses will still be here, after humanity is just a memory. If you want the immune system to produce vaccine-induced antibodies, then go for it. If not, then just let the immune system do its job naturally. The more vaccines we take, the more viral variants will be produced. So far, five!
I wonder just how many people who were vaccinated and recovered have been re-infected with this Delta strain(or any other variant)? Compared to the number of unvaccinated recovered people? Wonder if the government would put this information out? Buckley's!!
The only thing more amazing than the government's media stooges spreading disinformation, half-truth and omissions, is the gullibility, apathy, and ignorance of the people who listen and defend them.
Fortunately thousands of Australians are NOT still attached to the government's umbilical cord. These are the people who realize that there are glaring and obvious contradictions in the government's bullshit.
Why would anyone who has recovered from Covid-19 need to be vaccinated for the same virus? Their antibodies will even attack the viral variants. Unlike these vaccine induced antibodies.
Why would anyone wear a mask who is NOT even infected? The only logical answer is, that they are protecting themselves from those who do have the disease. The dumbest answer would be, that they don't want to infect others with a disease that they don't even have!
Why are we fear-mongering, and demonizing a virus, that has a survival rate of over 97%?
Why are we fining and arresting people for not keeping 2 meters apart, when this is impossible and ineffective?
What is the strategy for the government's agenda? Does the government plan on holding our freedoms and the economy to ransom? Unless everyone does what they are told? Are we now being treated like children, or sheep?
Why can't people just THINK ABOUT WHAT IS BALATANTLY OBVIOUS? Humans cannot fight against a freak'n virus. Humans WILL continue to be infected by cold and flu viruses. Viruses will still be here, after humanity is just a memory. If you want the immune system to produce vaccine-induced antibodies, then go for it. If not, then just let the immune system do its job naturally. The more vaccines we take, the more viral variants will be produced. So far, five!
I wonder just how many people who were vaccinated and recovered have been re-infected with this Delta strain(or any other variant)? Compared to the number of unvaccinated recovered people? Wonder if the government would put this information out? Buckley's!!
so you're only preaching anti vax crap because you want to stick it to the Haitians?
that'll fix them I' m sure
a bunch of frauds the lot of you
Shellandshilo1956
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Fortunately, not everyone communicates using clicks and grunts. There will always be those who actually try to make the government responsible for its actions. Especially, when when their actions are to destroying our country, and using us like pawns to advance their own agenda. But, there will always be those frauds who love bitching about the government, but will defend their right to screw them as deep as they want.
You couldn't answer even ONE of the most obvious questions anyone would ask about this so-called pandemic. I suppose if you did, it would only expose just how toady and rationally barren you really are. I asked you many times before, but never got an answer. WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR YOU TO GO AGAINST YOUR MASTER? How about two big cops holding down an 80yo grandma, while she is screaming NO NO NO, as the nurse sticks a needle into her arm. Or, maybe it is her own fault, for refusing in the first place?? Would this be enough to make you stop being you masters toady?
At least I am doing something that I believe is right. And so do the thousands of others. You are just doing whatever the fuck you are told. As long as there are people like you, who are still occupying space in the human gene pool, society will be very slow to evolve. I saved your favorite video, to remind you of your place in society. Sit. Stay. Good Boy.