Covid-19 Revisit

Shellandshilo1956

Active member
Money is more important than human lives.
THAT is what the Fed Govt believes, and YOU are good with it.
A blatant lie. I would ask you to quote where I imply/insinuate, or have stated this nonsense, but we both know that you can't. Just like John, you only make accusations, you never back them up. There are over 160K lives lost each year in Australia. 907 lives lost to Covid-19? Where was your fake hue and cry for the other 159K Australian deaths. What makes 0.5% of the total death per year, so important that we must shut down our government and economy, end most small businesses, suspend the civil liberties of our citizens, put a million Australians on the dole, arrest and fine our citizens, and isolate our citizens and our country from the rest of the world? Why not do this for the other 99.5% of our annual deaths? What, not important enough?

But, if you are really and genuinely concerned about these deaths, then lets be consistent. Lets start by banning all cars, planes, trucks and motorcycles, soft-drinks, coffee and tea, cigarettes, alcohol, fast-food chains, ladders(230), swimming pools(260), and all products containing sucrose and MSG. Can you just imagine how many deaths we could save?

We should do NOTHING useful to prevent human deaths..
Another blatant lie. I have stated where the government's resources should be used, how it should target those most at risk, and how we should educate the public and treat the sick. Why can't you understand, that if we can't mechanically protect the public from the flu or the cold(both are caused by coronaviruses or rhinoviruses), how the heck can we mechanically protect the public from this coronavirus? Why can't you understand that even the data doesn't support that lockdowns are working? You are even quoting failures as though they were successes. Just Insanity!

I DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU.
Is THAT CLEAR ENOUGH.?
If you can't even explain WHY or WHAT you disagree with, then stop trolling me. I promise I won't be offended. Clearly, you have nothing to offer, but parroted soundbites, platitudes, and a very closed mind. The stats and facts that I present are for people who CAN interpret facts and stats. My posts are for people who actually CAN make an arguments, other than, "I disagree".

So, I disagree with you!! So move on.
 

johnsmith

Moderator
Staff member
Since you wouldn't know the truth, even if you tripped over it, I doubt if there is anything we could agree on. But, you ARE an idiot, with zero potential of NOT being an idiot.
see, we've already agreed you're an idiot, your opinion is as reliable as that of my next door neighbours cat
 

pinkeye

Wonder woman
Last night, or was that this morning ABCNews Breakfast ? interviewed a fellow... highly credentialled. University of somewhere ...... who went on to say that the ACTUAL numbers in Australia alone. are likely 6 X more than currently identified, and in places such as Italy up to 12 X more than recorded.

Maybe that makes you feel bamboozled Shell.. but it is obvious.. so all your stats of only (whatever 0.1%) affected are bogus. Bogus in as much as they are INCORRECT.

All your ranting won't change this, and I wish YOU would shut up and GO AWAY. After all you have certainly had YOUR say... ON MY TOPIC.

So TROLL, why don't YOU leave US all in a blissful ignorance. ?? HMM? Go away and abuse other people , that'd would BE MOST WELCOME.
 
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Shellandshilo1956

Active member
see, we've already agreed you're an idiot, your opinion is as reliable as that of my next door neighbours cat
I don't deposit opinions dumb-dumb! I deposit facts. If it were not for opinions, you would have absolutely nothing to say. At least the cat's opinions would be based on real facts in the real world. Not beliefs, based on ignorance, blind loyalty, and the delusion truth. You must know what facts are, since you keep making-up every nonsense excuse to ignore/avoid them.

I guess if I was a pseudo-sophist, a delusional egocentric, a one-dimensional thinker, and an attention-starved wannabee, I would also do anything to avoid being expose. I would certainly not answer any basic questions, or try to defend my position. JUST LIKE YOU!!!
 

Shellandshilo1956

Active member
Last night, or was that this morning ABCNews Breakfast ? interviewed a fellow... highly credentialled. University of somewhere ...... who went on to say that the ACTUAL numbers in Australia alone. are likely 6 X more than currently identified, and in places such as Italy up to 12 X more than recorded.

Maybe that makes you feel bamboozled Shell.. but it is obvious.. so all your stats of only (whatever 0.1%) affected are bogus. Bogus in as much as they are INCORRECT.

All your ranting won't change this, and I wish YOU would shut up and GO AWAY. After all you have certainly had YOUR say... ON MY TOPIC.

So TROLL, why don't YOU leave US all in a blissful ignorance. ?? HMM? Go away and abuse other people , that'd would BE MOST WELCOME.
Are you really this dumb? If some credentialed person on the internet, tells you that the world will end tomorrow, will you take out a $100,000 loan? And, when someone credentialed gives you his unverifiable opinion, you just except it as fact? I am talking about verifiable documented factual cases of deaths, infections, and recoveries. Percentages based on these documented verifiable facts. Are you really saying that all these documented cases are now just bogus?? One has nothing to do with the other. I have already agreed that there are more undocumented cases, than documented cases. Because, DUH! Where do documented cases come from before they become documented???

As to how many undocumented cases there are out there, it is all speculation. And, totally irrelevant to the numbers that ARE documented. I can prove that only 0.25% of the world population is infected by the coronavirus. But I can't prove that 7.8% of the world population is infected by the coronavirus, based on speculation. But hey, it is always harder to prove that the real facts are bogus, than it is to prove that bogus facts are real. So, how do you provide evidence for any claims that are unverifiable? Or, is it just obvious??

All your ranting won't change this, and I wish YOU would shut up and GO AWAY. After all you have certainly had YOUR say... ON MY TOPIC.

So TROLL, why don't YOU leave US all in a blissful ignorance. ?? HMM? Go away and abuse other people , that'd would BE MOST WELCOME.
All my "rantings" will have no affect on a closed mind. People like you will always sacrifice the truth to remain blissfully ignorant. It avoids dissonance, and gives the illusion of being correct.

Since it is your thread, I will honor your censorship request. So now honor my request. Do not ever respond to MY posts. You have absolutely nothing of substance to offer on any subject. And, there is absolutely nothing I could learn from you. This also includes any of your cowardly indirect replies to avoid the notification(not replying directly to my posts).
 

pinkeye

Wonder woman
oh good

Goodbye

OH but I reserve the right of reply if you ever refer to me in any post.

Sweet.
 
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pinkeye

Wonder woman
so maybe we can talk about the SA cluster now. I know it is late/early.. Jeez I'm just watching DANGERMAN, of all things.

The SA govt has certainly acted quickly with their restrictions.. I do feel sorry for the people caught in transit , on their way to family or friends..
Sorry for Monk too.
Altho new infections were small yesterday, and hopefully today, it is obviously of some concern to the SA government and I imagine that is to do with the actual positives. One was a prison worker apparently.. whatever that means. And others are part of a large family group.

Hope this SA situation clears up soon.
 

DonDeeHippy

Active member
meanwhile 50,000 where at a football game last night........
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All the bullshit about how Polischook held strong and kept the borders closed against the whole world then a few days later allows 50,000 people to sit next to each other to watch fucking football...:groan

We still are not allowed to have a dance at the pub, or a weding or funeral though because it will be to many people in one place....
 
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DonDeeHippy

Active member
  • Switzerland: intensive care beds at full capacity. In a press statement on Tuesday, the Swiss Society for Intensive Medicine said all of the 876 certified ICU beds in Switzerland were occupied, advising vulnerable people to write down in a will whether they would like to receive life support in the event of a severe illness.

A grim dispatch from the US. Overwhelmed hospitals are converting chapels, cafeterias, waiting rooms, hallways, even a parking garage into patient treatment areas.

Staff members are desperately calling around to other medical centers in search of open beds. Fatigue and frustration are setting in among front-line workers.

Conditions inside the nation’s hospitals are deteriorating by the day as the coronavirus rages across the U.S. at an unrelenting pace and the death toll closes in on a quarter-million.

“We are depressed, disheartened and tired to the bone,” said Alison Johnson, director of critical care at Johnson City Medical Center in Tennessee, adding that she drives to and from work some days in tears.

The number of people in the hospital with Covid-19 in the U.S. has doubled in the past month and set new records every day this week. As of Tuesday, nearly 77,000 were hospitalized with the virus.

This is the reason that lock-downs are important once the hospital beds and staff are maximized then terrible decisions need to be made......
 
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HBS Guy

Head Honcho
Staff member
When there is a major economic shock old people don’t die as soon—they are needed by kids/grandkids, do some babysitting etc etc.

I took Mum for a looong drive today: Adelaide-Meadows-Strathalbyn-Langhorne Creek-Meningie-Coonalpyn-Tailem Bend and home again. Against the rules but necessary IMO.
 

DonDeeHippy

Active member
When there is a major economic shock old people don’t die as soon—they are needed by kids/grandkids, do some babysitting etc etc.

I took Mum for a looong drive today: Adelaide-Meadows-Strathalbyn-Langhorne Creek-Meningie-Coonalpyn-Tailem Bend and home again. Against the rules but necessary IMO.
you where legal untill midnight I think Mr Monk you where safe
 
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